As I learned painfully at home last year. :) Not that I didn't know, of course, but that sort of thing is supposed to happen to everyone else (or so the story goes)
* * *ASB* *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market… * On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > Instead of going (5 or 10) to 1, I suggest (5 or 10) to 2, though. At > least you have some functionality if you have physical failure of a host. > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Mark Boeck <netadmin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Most ppl can run 5 - 10 of their existing servers as virtual machines on >> a single HOST server. >> That gives u an idea of how underutilized most hardware is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Matthew W. Ross <mr...@ephrataschools.org >> > wrote: >> >>> So, since this has come up, I'm curious on how much processing power is >>> actually needed for most services? >>> >>> I have some Quad-Core Xeons which are absolutely underutilized. They are >>> doing their jobs (usually serving user home folders and standard Active >>> Directory duties) with plenty of horsepower to spare. So it makes me >>> wonder: Has anybody tried Windows Server on an Atom? >>> >>> Take all the other bottlenecks out of the equation: Plenty of RAM, fast >>> HD or SSD... does the 1.8 dual core Atom (or the Socket 1155 Celeron) >>> handle most tasks just as well as a Dual 6Core Xeon? Aka, could I be >>> getting away with less expensive hardware to do the same duties? >>> >>> I realize if I'm encoding or rendering, the hefty Xeon is a much better >>> bet. Or if I'm trying to run VMs, the Atom's not even an option. >>> >>> >>> --Matt Ross >>> Ephrata School District >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Steve Ens >>> [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >>> 11:26:11 -0700 >>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >>> >>> >>> > I wouldn't. Just illustrating that it is a lower horsepower CPU. >>> Good for >>> > some things, and not for others. I think the NEO is pretty affordable >>> too. >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Matthew W. Ross >>> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote: >>> > >>> > > You could upgrade it to a real (albeit low-power) dual-core Athlon. >>> > > >>> > > Why would you want to run Autocad on a small form factor PC? >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > --Matt Ross >>> > > Ephrata School District >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > From: Steve Ens >>> > > [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] >>> >>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >>> > > 10:40:10 -0700 >>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > I think AMD Neo....but close enough. great for everyday use, but >>> > > wouldn't >>> > > > want to run Autocad on it. For media playout it runs fine too. >>> > > > >>> > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jonathan Link >>> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > I left out similar specs... Isnt that an Atom processor? >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Steve Ens <stevey...@gmail.com> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > >> The Acer Revo series is very nice...great for the living room. >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jonathan Link >>> > > > <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> > > > >> >>> > > > >>> It's a nice form factor. Not aware of anything that is quite >>> that >>> > > small >>> > > > >>> in the PC world off the top of my head. >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org >>> > >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>>> "I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people in our >>> district, >>> > and >>> > > > >>>> they run great." >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> Out of curiosity....why? >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- >>> > > > >>>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] >>> > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:06 AM >>> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> VMware Fusion. I used to run Virtualbox, but VMWare is a much >>> > > slicker >>> > > > >>>> product. Parallels is an excellent product, though. >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> But if you want to run windows (and only windows) on it, just >>> > > install >>> > > > >>>> it directly. I have a few "Mac Hardware, Windows OS" people >>> in our >>> > > > >>>> district, and they run great. >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> --Matt Ross >>> > > > >>>> Ephrata School District >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > >>>> From: Harry Singh >>> > > > >>>> [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] >>> >>> > > > >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > > > >>>> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>> > > > >>>> Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >>> > > > >>>> 08:42:40 -0700 >>> > > > >>>> Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>>> > Matthew - Are you running Parralells (or whatever the Apple >>> VM >>> > > tech >>> > > > is >>> > > > >>>> > called) or VMware to run the Windows 7 VM simultaneously? >>> Single >>> > > NIC, >>> > > > >>>> > so i assume it's running in a Bridged NAT mode? >>> > > > >>>> > >>> > > > >>>> > The footprint and hardware makes it something i wouldn't >>> mind >>> > > playing >>> > > > >>>> > around with at home. >>> > > > >>>> > >>> > > > >>>> > >>> > > > >>>> > >>> > > > >>>> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Matthew W. Ross >>> > > > >>>> > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote: >>> > > > >>>> > >>> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major >>> issues >>> > with >>> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop? >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > We run 10.6 Server on an XServe in the main server room. >>> It's >>> > > doing >>> > > > >>>> > > our Open Directory master stuff. >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > I'm running 10.6 Client on my desktop. >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > --Matt Ross >>> > > > >>>> > > Ephrata School District >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > >>>> > > From: justino garcia >>> > > > >>>> > > [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] >>> >>> > > > >>>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > > > >>>> > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>> > > > >>>> > > Sent: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 >>> > > > >>>> > > 05:51:20 -0700 >>> > > > >>>> > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > Are you running mac os Server or client? any major >>> issues >>> > with >>> > > > >>>> > > > running Server OS as a desktop? >>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Matthew W. Ross >>> > > > >>>> > > > <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote: >>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> >>> > > > >>>> > > > > My main computers is a Mac Mini. I love this little >>> thing. >>> > > It's >>> > > > >>>> > > > > quite >>> > > > >>>> > > the >>> > > > >>>> > > > > great piece of hardware. >>> > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > I have it running a VM of Windows 7, and I do my >>> windows >>> > > stuff >>> > > > >>>> > > > > on >>> > > > >>>> > that. >>> > > > >>>> > > > > It'd dedicated to a second screen. >>> > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > You got the server, so no DVD drive. Did you get it >>> with a >>> > > > >>>> second HD? >>> > > > >>>> > > If >>> > > > >>>> > > > > not, you may want to consider adding one. (There is >>> space >>> > in >>> > > > >>>> > > > > there for >>> > > > >>>> > > a >>> > > > >>>> > > > > second 2.5" drive. >>> > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > --Matt Ross >>> > > > >>>> > > > > Ephrata School District >>> > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > >>>> > > > > From: David Lum >>> > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:david....@nwea.org] >>> >>> > > > >>>> > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > > > >>>> > > > > [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>> > > > >>>> > > > > Sent: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 >>> > > > >>>> > > > > 15:01:50 -0700 >>> > > > >>>> > > > > Subject: RE: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >>> > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > Hell I dunno, I have this thing on my desk and when >>> it >>> > > > reboots >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > it's >>> > > > >>>> > > like >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > R2D2 singing at me "look I know you're there, now >>> shut >>> > > up". >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > LOL >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > It surfs the Internet just like a PC, so there's >>> hope for >>> > > > this >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > thing >>> > > > >>>> > > > yet. >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto: >>> > > michealespin...@gmail.com] >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 2:49 PM >>> >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > To: NT System Admin Issues >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > Subject: Re: So, my Mac Mini server arrived today... >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > So you now have a Mac Mini [server] and a [mini] Mac >>> > Mini? >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > -- >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > Espi >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 8:09 AM, David Lum >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>> >>> wrote: >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > The thing is the size of portable CD player. >>> Opening the >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > manual (out >>> > > > >>>> > > of >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > curiosity, not like I RTFM and with Mac why should >>> I have >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > to?), the >>> > > > >>>> > > > cover >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > says simply "Hello." And the opening page says: >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > "Congratulations, >>> > > > >>>> > you >>> > > > >>>> > > > and >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > your Mac Mini were made for each other". >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > No, we weren't, you are a necessary evil you damn >>> Mac >>> > > Mini... >>> > > > >>>> > > > > > David Lum >>> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
