A college degree (usually) indicates that someone has obtained certain literary, communication, and fact-finding skills that are useful in the workplace.
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT - ugh! Going to college opens doors. And it almost doesn't even matter what the degree is in. I think it's like a secret handshake. It says "I can navigate a byzantine bureaucracy and complete a series of tasks without close supervision." I might be wrong, but I think it's always there in the subconscious. I had doors open for me that were previously shut by completing a degree (my degree is not in IT, but in accountancy). On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:29 AM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org<mailto:david....@nwea.org>> wrote: "This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." Wow. I can see the college degree being a tiebreaker, but I can only guess the person making that statement doesn't fully understand the tech industry? Or, maybe not having gone to college myself I don't understand that thinking. It could have also been their way of backing out, instead of saying "we changed our minds on our needs" or "we hired from inside". I've heard of that kind of thing before - where what the person not getting hired wasn't told what was really happening. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Webster [mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com<mailto:webs...@carlwebster.com>] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT - ugh! Last year I was in the final interview for a Citrix Architect position for a very large company in Nashville. IIRC, it was like interview #6 or 7 in the process. I had been talking with the executive for over 45 minutes when "all of a sudden" he says "Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize you had no college degree. This position requires a degree. Sorry. Click." I then took MBS' advice and went solo. I say screw FTE! :) Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.com > -----Original Message----- > From: MMF [mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net<mailto:mmfree...@ameritech.net>] > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:43 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > > Assuming they're being honest, it tells me that they are not very > strong in background checking. How could they have missed the fact > that you've been with one company for more than 10 years. I've NEVER > ever heard of a company offering a job and then withdrawing the offer, > period, much less before total background check. I believe that I can > fully understand the idea of wanting IT staff that has a varied > background which would include more than one job over a decade. I > think you are fortunate that you didn't take the job because it sounds > to me that the organization isn't of the highest quality, if you catch > my drift. Sometimes things happen for the best in spite of your best > efforts. They didn't vet you, but how well did you vet them! It's also > obvious that they don't recognize talent when they see it! > > Murray > > -----Original Message----- > From: James Hill > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:09 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: OT - ugh! > > I feel for you. > > But try and look at this way. If they can't see the value you can > offer now then it would only be a continual uphill fight if you were > employed by them. > > You are better off with an employer that shares your values. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacob Kisner [mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com<mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com>] > Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2012 9:52 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: OT - ugh! > > "Because we feel you are not diversified enough to address our issues." > > Same issues I have addressed over the years poor issue management, no > project management, no documentation, crashing servers, IT staff > treating the network like a high school lab.. etc. Not only can I stop > the bleeding and stabilize the patient (gave then how I would do it), > I can implement a more proactive approach to IT management and stop > the fires (also gave > details.) > > I guess they rather have the fires... > > > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Don Kuhlman > <drkuhl...@yahoo.com<mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com>> > wrote: > > That makes no sense - why do they care where you were for 15 > > years...Sorry to hear that Jacob. > > > > I just started a new position - temp for 9 months, nice place - nice > > people so far. > > > > I'm getting into MAC/Linux support so it's a stretch for me (windows > > background), but it's a job and a chance to learn. > > > > Good luck! > > > > Don K > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Jacob Kisner <jbdkis...@gmail.com<mailto:jbdkis...@gmail.com>> > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:19 PM > > Subject: OT - ugh! > > > > Nothing sucks more than being interviewed for a position at a > > different company last Tuesday, then being called Thursday to say we > > are going to offer you a position and finally being told today that > > we changed our mind... "We did not realize you were with the same > > company for 15 years..." 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