No, I don't have time to do what others are doing, but I'm humored by it. On Mar 15, 2012 2:11 PM, "Jonathan Link" <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
> While that is certainly true, he no longer has a point about remaining > anonymous, and his continued "asshattery" compounded the situation. > > Sometimes when the prey runs the predator gives chase. Note, I was the > first one to be vocal about his objection to James Rankin's signature. He > voiced an objection, I voiced an opinion that I wasn't bothered by the > signature, and thought it interesting that someone who couldn't be bothered > to put his real name as a display name had rights to impose his desires on > the community. I know several who have interesting > username@gmail.comaddresses, but do put their real name, or what I think is > their real name > out there. Ben Scott, for example is mailvortex. For all I know > mailvortex is someone else, but he's generally a responsible member of the > community. (Sorry Ben!) > > I was pretty well willing to let him lie in his own hypocrisy. I haven't > had any involvement in any of the items he's reported to the list. It > appears that he has angered the "masters" of the list, though. > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Jeff Brown <jbr...@webcoindustries.com>wrote: > >> I don’t think “mr. anonymous” has crossed that line…**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* Gary Slinger [mailto:gary.slin...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2012 11:15 AM >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: list delays**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Nice. Very nice. **** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> **** >> >> *Date: *Thu, 15 Mar 2012 08:19:43 -0700**** >> >> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>**** >> >> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" < >> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>**** >> >> *Subject: *Re: list delays**** >> >> ** ** >> >> For those that don't recall... Back in 2000-2001, there was a tool that >> chose to degrade women on the list for what reason I don't recall... Said >> tool was posting from his work account which made his comments all the more >> interesting... Said tool, was "responsible for exchange and all things >> security" at Labor Ready. Tool was asked to return to the shed, refrain >> from acting like a douche waffle in a public forum and apologize publicly. >> **** >> >> ** ** >> >> All the while, some "information gathering" was being performed. Captain >> Tool of all Douche Waffles was asked one last time to apologize, otherwise >> his employer would be informed at the highest levels of his behavior. For >> some reason he thought he was untouchable... Needless to say, Captain Tool >> of all Douche Waffles circa 2000-2001 remained combative and unwilling to >> show remorse... It was a interesting phone call from the CIO of Labor >> Ready. He was truly interested in how someone could know so much about the >> internal network of Labor Ready... It's been said, that he was very happy >> that their company received a "security audit/penetration test" on the >> house at the time...**** >> >> ** ** >> >> We'll just say that Captain Tool of all Douche Waffles was never heard >> from again and the breached levy's were rebuilt and better reinforced to >> reduce the attack surface...**** >> >> ** ** >> >> A $44k per year company with one employee (actually 2 if you really study >> the LinkedIN profile) most certainly isn't worth that kind of effort... >> Well, not to me anyway...**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Gary Slinger <gary.slin...@gmail.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> ?**** >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> **** >> >> *Date: *Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:46:01 -0700**** >> >> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>**** >> >> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" < >> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>**** >> >> *Subject: *Re: list delays**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Then you've forgotten the Labor Ready situation from the Exchange list... >> :D**** >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com> wrote:* >> *** >> >> In all my years on this list I have never heard of anyone taking anything >> beyond the list unless it was a comment that did not belong on the list >> being sent directly to the email address of the subscribed individual >> usually then it help of some kind not attacks.**** >> >> **** >> >> BTW I go back to about 97 or 98 so that is a LONG time.**** >> >> **** >> >> Jon**** >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:50 PM, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> I think your moniker is well-deserved - "masters" of the list is very >> cynical. I don't see it that way. And if anyone from this list saw fit to >> speak to my employer or attack me personally via telephone or snail mail, >> I'd see fit to go over to knock on their door and have it out with them. I >> come from a pretty grassroots place so if someone's out of order we tend to >> see nothing wrong with getting down on the cobbles, if necessary, and >> sorting it out. Each to their own. I don't think anyone here would do that, >> though. Maybe I'm "naive geek", but I'm not worrying about it. >> >> IMHO, YMMV, usual disclaimers. >> >> Signature will soon be gone. >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> JR**** >> >> On 14 March 2012 15:53, Cynicalgeek <cynicalg...@gmail.com> wrote:**** >> >> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature, but to have to ignore it >> hundreds or thousands of times when it's including in replies by other >> people just doesn't make any sense to me. But....whatever.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> You know I've considered using my real name on here several times. >> However, after seeing how a lot of the "masters" of this list treat the >> readers of the list, I'll never do it. The "masters" find enjoyment in >> berating and personally attacking readers of the list. I wouldn't put it >> past some or the "masters" to actually look somebody up and either A) call >> a list member's employer to complain, or B) personally attack (verbally) in >> real life over the phone, via snail mail, etc.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> This list is still useful but there is a lot of unprofessionalism that >> goes on that has nothing to do with my 'cynicalgeek' email address not >> using my real name.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> It's pretty easy to ignore a signature. It's also funny, so I tend >> to give it a pass. I've seen worse signatures with huge pictures, those >> are pretty objectionable. The list members have come down hard on people >> with huge graphics and whatnot in their signature. Is Mr Rankin's long? >> Yeah, but it's text and it doesn't stand out and cry for my attention, >> either.**** >> >> **** >> >> Turning this on its head. If you expect the courtesy of Mr. Rankin >> trimming his signature, why is it unreasonable for someone to ask you to >> use your real name? Or at least use an alias that appears legitimate.*** >> * >> >> **** >> >> Community is built when people "know" who their peers are.**** >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Cynicalgeek <cynicalg...@gmail.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> #1 I read nothing in the EULA about having to use my real first and >> last name.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> #2 I shouldn't have said that the LISTSERV should munge the long >> signature, I should have said that list owners should gently ask users not >> to use signatures that are incredibly long and useless.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> #3 I'm trying to make constructive suggestions that would help the >> community of this list...solutions that would cost members of the list >> NOTHING and improve the service of the list.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote:**** >> >> 1 demerit for you sir!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> **** >> >> Now someone is either dreaming or you have had way too many beers >> tonight sir.**** >> >> **** >> >> Jon**** >> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> wrote:**** >> >> And while were at it, posts will only accepted by the listserv >> provided they contain the appropriate amount of research has been completed >> with references included!**** >> >> ** ** >> >> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Gary Slinger <gary.slin...@gmail.com> >> wrote:**** >> >> Equally, if it purged everyone that doesn't post with a cleartext >> real-world name, that would be a good thing also.**** >> >> >> ------Original Message------ >> From: cynicalg...@gmail.com >> To: NT System Admin Issues**** >> >> ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues**** >> >> Subject: Re: list delays >> Sent: Mar 13, 2012 23:28 >> >> Personally I think if the LISTSERV would munge James Rankins' email >> signature on demand we would all be better off. ;)**** >> >> Sent from my iPhone**** >> >> >> >> On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:37 PM, Bill Humphries <nt...@hedgedigger.com> >> wrote: >> >> > wow. 4 hour delays on postings. really, this should be fixed or ditch >> lyris. >> >**** >> >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! 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