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From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A question about Virtualization

No client at all? Just a shortcut to an executable? Sounds interesting.
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From: John Cook <john.c...@pfsf.org<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:06:16 +0000
To: NT System Admin 
Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: A question about Virtualization

Thinapp is easy peasy. Start with a reference machine, run the Thinapp wizard, 
share out the package it creates. First run it will create any local folders 
necessary but after that it's just a matter of clicking on the exe from the 
package which we generally give them a shortcut to.

 John W. Cook
Network Operations Manager
Partnership For Strong Families
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MCSE, MCP+I, MCTS, CompTIA A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4

From: James Rankin 
[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]<mailto:[mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A question about Virtualization

I haven't done much ThinApp, to be fair. How easy is it to package stuff up? I 
find App-V dead easy, but then again it was the first thing I used for it. My 
other main packaging experience was with Citrix Streaming, and that ain't great 
at all.

One thing I will say for App-V is that it's dead easy to deliver it through 
Citrix if you've got that kind of layered infrastructure. You don't even need 
the App-V streaming conduit - you just point a published app to the App-V 
client and add the right switches, and you can deliver the App-V stuff right 
through the Citrix plugins like an normal installed app.

App-V also integrates nicely with AppSense and particularly their 
Personalization Server piece, which makes it another popular choice for the 
kind of deployments I do.

I was just wondering how far the OP is wanting to take their entire 
"virtualization" strategy? Certainly once you get into the deeper parts of 
profile and application virtualization you can put together a solution based 
around a vast amount of different combinations of technologies rather than the 
more limited options available on a server or desktop virtualization level.

Cheers,


JR
On 6 November 2012 16:39, John Cook 
<john.c...@pfsf.org<mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org>> wrote:
I mostly agree with James with the exception of App-V, VMWare Thinapp requires 
no local client to run packages so IMHO it's a cleaner distribution package.

 John W. Cook
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Partnership For Strong Families
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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com<mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 11:35 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: A question about Virtualization

Server virtualization?
Desktop virtualization?
Application virtualization?
Profile/user virtualization?

All different parts of the virtualization tree.

If you are talking server, VMWare and Microsoft are probably the biggest players
Desktops - I wouldn't look any further than Citrix
Application - Microsoft App-V is the best IMHO
Profile/user - AppSense
On 6 November 2012 16:28, itli...@imcu.com<mailto:itli...@imcu.com> 
<itli...@imcu.com<mailto:itli...@imcu.com>> wrote:
I have no experience with Virtualized anything.
I have read VMware is better than Citrix.
What kind of hardware do I put all of this on?
A Blade server with a SAN back end?
I really have no opinions or experience on any of this.
Please don't flame me to badly.
Thanks
David

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