My hours have changed so do call first. Jon
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 9:55 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's what I meant by just starting to read, some of the tech blogs I > have read, were discussing the single hardware layer and that fact that > all of the VPS's share that same Hardware layer that if something > happens to the "Host" in terms of a windows kernel or issue with a > driver that all of the VPS go down. ESX would hold the same, but it > runs a separate OS that has specific driver requirements as well as a > specific update path so they would say that a benefit to VMWare and > Virtual Server. > > I would imagine that a VZ server running 2003 that has to be patched and > such like a regular windows box and would make the VPS's a bit more > susceptible to "issues". Like I said, just starting to look at the > architecture in VZ, and I am like most in Vmware and VS, know what I > know, good on most issues but I know when to call the big boys. With > VZ, I am just all paper and I have not even turned the first page yet.. > > Going to get a demo next week to start playing with, good to know there > are specific scenarios that another solution maybe better suited, but I > have to be able to support it... > > Jon, I will definitely stop by and see what you have been playing with > the last few weeks. Sounds fun...Call you later in the week to schedule > it up. > > Thanks Michael..mighty nice to answer my questions on the long weekend. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:20 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Virtuozzo Migration > > Where do you get 8? I used to consider it cost-neutral with 3. > > Each VPS is fully isolated. Not sure what you mean by "true isolation". > > Regards, > > Michael B. Smith > MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP > http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:08 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Virtuozzo Migration > > Thanks Phil, That is an important note for clients moving from 32 bit to > 64 bit applications. It also looks like you have to be putting at > least 8 servers on a physical box to make it cost effective. > > I am also somewhat concerned with the true isolation of a client's VPS > if a single Hardware layer is presented vs what I perceive to be a more > isolated and resilient hardware layer per VM. What happens in one VM > does not cross over to all the others. I have a lot more to read on > this, I just started today so I thank you for the info it has made a lot > of concepts click. > > Thanks > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:02 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Virtuozzo Migration > > It's not that Virtuozzo limits you to a particular SW platform, it > limits you to ONE specific operating system release on ONE CPU > architecture. If you choose to use 64-bit Server 2003 Enterprise R2 in > your containers, that's what you're stuck with. If you need something > else (say, 32-bit Server 2003 Standard R2) you need a new virtualization > server, or forgo virualization altogether for that one machine. > > To give you something to compare it to, Virtuozzo is similar in concept > to FreeBSD jails and Solaris containers. > > VMware ESX may be less efficient than VZ, but you gain infinitely more > flexibility. I've personally run 64-bit Linux, 32-bit Linux, 64-bit > 2003, 32-bit 2003, and 32-bit NetBSD on an ESX box at the same time... > can't do that with VZ. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So far it seems that the proc and memory mgmt in VZ is better than > > VMWare, so why would a company consolidating servers or looking for > > expansion go with VMWare over VZ if they are staying all on the same > SW > > platform? > > -- > > Phil Brutsche > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
