That's why we need minions!
-sc From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 1:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Amusing Not really. I am basically a 1 person IT department with 1 other person helping me with PC maintenance, for 200 users at 10 locations, so I have a long list of things I want to /need to/ should do, but am very short on the time and resources I need to get it all done. Especially since I am working at a non-profit. (End of 'poor me' whining.) I do think that sending out an 'all employees' email is viewed by most people as the fastest, most effective way to get an announcement or notification out to everyone. So I don't see that really diminishing much. I do post some things, like the café menu, on a web page for employees to access, so there are some cases where teaching employees to send out a message that 'there is a new menu posted on the website' with a link would at least save the attachment from being mass distributed, but that wouldn't change the SIS ratio. I think, after reading the messages in this thread as well as the MS article cited, the biggest behavior affecting the SIS ratio in my organization is people not cleaning messages out of their mailboxes. We have people who keep everything for years. Past efforts to use mailbox manager to delete messages over a certain age have been nixed by the CEO and the rest of the admin team. Time to fight that battle again, I guess. As usual, reading messages on this list is instructive. Definitely the solution, as is often the case, better user training and providing better alternatives that they will readily accept. Ralph ________________________________ From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 12:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Amusing I was being (somewhat) facetious. Menus? Do you guys do intranet? -sc From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 11:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Amusing There are some "all employees" messages sent out - for example the HR dept sends out a monthly newsletter now through email instead of distributing hard copy. The cafeteria often sends out daily specials or menus to all employees. We get a lot of messages sent from various state agencies that may go to twenty or thirty people within our agency, often with attachments. There are a lot of people within our agency who are on the same external mailing lists, so there is probably some duplication there. Overall I don't think the "all employees" messages are that excessive - I se maybe 5 or 10 a week. ________________________________ From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 7:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Amusing Good lord. Do you guys simply email everything to the "all employees" DL instead of sending individual emails? -sc From: Ralph Smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Amusing 14.5 for 200 users. ________________________________ From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:02 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Amusing 5.25 for roughly 350 users. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM, David Mazzaccaro <[email protected]> wrote: Mine is at 40. (150 users, 1 E2003 store) Never thought to look at this particular perfmon counter before this post. Id' be interested to see what others are reporting.... -----Original Message----- From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Amusing I bet if you look at your SIS ratio perf counter you won't see anything near a 10x reduction. -sc -----Original Message----- From: John Hornbuckle <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Amusing I'll have to ponder that one a bit. Not sure I like it. Disks may be cheap, but eliminating SIS would cause storage requirements to increase by an order of magnitude. The OP's situation is a prime example... Suddenly a 9 MB storage requirement becomes 2.7 GB storage requirement (if my math is right). From: Brian Desmond [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Amusing 3000x9 Disks are cheap, Exchange 2010 is designed to run RAID-less on large SATA (e.g. 1TB) drives. 1 database per SATA drive - TX logs & DB on the same volume. Thanks, Brian Desmond [email protected] c - 312.731.3132 Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/ <http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/> Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian <https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Amusing How does Ex 2010 work regarding SIS? If it doesn't use it, does it use some similar technology? Or would the OP's 9 MB file now take 3000x9 MB of space? 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