Some businesses are cyclical, some are anti-cyclical.  And every recession
(and the Great Depression) is a period of opportunity for those willing to
find the silver lining.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 7:16 PM, James Kerr <cluster...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Guess I shouldn't complain about our 1% raise company wide.
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>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sam Cayze <sam.ca...@rollouts.com>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>  *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:49 PM
> *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
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> Well put, nice words Andy.  (And others).
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> They might be lowballing to find someone serious about the position, not
> the paycheck.  If you bite, they may make it worth your while if you are
> committed.
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> *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:27 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
>
>  Chris,
>
> It’s tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are
> employed are right there with you.  Salary cuts, benefit cost increases,
> insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s, furloughs,
> FREAKIN’ COMISSION PLAN RESTRUCTURES (I fell better).  The cut sucks, I
> understand, but you’re standing there with an FULL TIME OFFER LETTER.  To
> many IT guys that are stupid smart are now bagging groceries…
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> I encourage everyone in this situation to look long term; the here and now
> is not fun but it is temporary. “This too, shall pass”, wrote the psalmist.
> I would use the opportunity you have been given to rise above the morale,
> fear\doom & gloom and stand out; i.e. all of you be the rock star in your
> current position(s).  It’s a killer opportunity, as the fat has been trimmed
> and orgs are now focusing on everything & everyone with laser precision.
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> Be the best… [1]
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> Shook
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> [1] This could be perceived as an unintentional Karate Kid reference
> (tournament music….*You’re the best, around.  No one’s ever gunna beat you
> down*) but that was not the intent. J
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> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar <
> christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote:
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> I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due to the unemployment
> rate, and the economy in general, but needed to vent a little. Was hired as
> a contract to hire position last year. Great company, close to home, good
> salary. 6 months in they cut my salary by 10% to the contracting company,
> which was then passed on to me. I was told at the time, that if/when I was
> offered full time employment, I would be brought on with the initial salary
> I had started at. Just go the official offer, and it’s 5% below that. I know
> I should be thankful I even have a job, which I am. But I still feel like
> they are low-balling me just because of the economy. If the economy would be
> better and more IT jobs out there, I’d tell them to take a hike and see what
> happens. Can’t afford to do that right now with a mortgage and 2 kids. For
> once I just wish someone would offer me what was promised. Sorry, not
> looking to offend anyone out there. Just blowing off some steam.
>
> Chris
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