I couldn't agree more. If you get a 1% raise your a lucky bastige right now. I'm in the same boat as everyone else and consider myself very fortunate to have a job. I get resumes from people who quite frankly have a better technical skill set than me and would work for less money than what I'm getting. Ride it out, cash the checks and work, work, work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Ziots " < EZiots @Lifespan.org> To: "NT System Admin Issues" < ntsysadmin @ lyris .sunbelt-software.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 6:34:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant
I agree, right now, a lot if not most companies are “bleeding a nickel” when it comes to getting maximum productivity out of workers, on top of reducing costs any and every way they can. I don’t see this trend ending for a few years to come. Like its been said before for those that get raises ( Ours have been frozen too, and possibly for longer for just this year) along with the raise in paying more for your benefits, less in the 401K, 403B, and no training budget) be happy you have a job and a roof over your head, it could be a lot worse, and quiet quickly. I agree use the opportunity to stand out, put in the time, (and we all know it isn’t a 40 hr work week, you are lucky if you get away with 60-70 hrs a week now a days) learn all you can learn with new technologies, and bide your time. Z Edward Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + ezi...@lifespan.org Phone:401-639-3505 From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 7:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant Guess I shouldn't complain about our 1% raise company wide. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Cayze To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:49 PM Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Well put, nice words Andy. (And others). They might be lowballing to find someone serious about the position, not the paycheck. If you bite, they may make it worth your while if you are committed. From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Chris, It’s tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are employed are right there with you. Salary cuts, benefit cost increases, insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s, furloughs, FREAKIN’ COMISSION PLAN RESTRUCTURES (I fell better). The cut sucks, I understand, but you’re standing there with an FULL TIME OFFER LETTER. To many IT guys that are stupid smart are now bagging groceries… I encourage everyone in this situation to look long term; the here and now is not fun but it is temporary. “This too, shall pass”, wrote the psalmist. I would use the opportunity you have been given to rise above the morale, fear\doom & gloom and stand out; i.e. all of you be the rock star in your current position(s). It’s a killer opportunity, as the fat has been trimmed and orgs are now focusing on everything & everyone with laser precision. Be the best… [1] Shook [1] This could be perceived as an unintentional Karate Kid reference (tournament music…. You’re the best, around. No one’s ever gunna beat you down ) but that was not the intent. J On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar < christopher_bod...@glic.com > wrote: I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due to the unemployment rate, and the economy in general, but needed to vent a little. Was hired as a contract to hire position last year. Great company, close to home, good salary. 6 months in they cut my salary by 10% to the contracting company, which was then passed on to me. I was told at the time, that if/when I was offered full time employment, I would be brought on with the initial salary I had started at. Just go the official offer, and it’s 5% below that. I know I should be thankful I even have a job, which I am. But I still feel like they are low-balling me just because of the economy. If the economy would be better and more IT jobs out there, I’d tell them to take a hike and see what happens. Can’t afford to do that right now with a mortgage and 2 kids. For once I just wish someone would offer me what was promised. Sorry, not looking to offend anyone out there. Just blowing off some steam. Chris ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ < http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ > ~ -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
