I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion.  Hey Kim, have you heard
the radio advertisements for this place?

http://mycomputercareer.com/

I wish I could record the audio of this radio ad so yall could hear it.
Basically they are saying that even in a down economy all companies still
need computer support and you can earn more money than you've ever earned
before and in as little as three months have the certifications that
employers are looking for.  Stimulus money is available and deferred student
loans are available.

I just want to scream whenever I hear this ad, especially since I'm hearing
it on our local Christian radio station, talk about false advertising
(IMNSHO).

The Dallas/Ft. Worth area has not really been hit so bad in this economy,
but it's not great.  Yeah, I just had my annual review and got a great
raise, but here at our organization, at the first of the year, management
voluntarily elected to forgo their raises for this year....training budget
is non-existent and new hardware is on an as needed basis and it has to be
really needed.  I'm grateful to have a good job, and for management that
sees the long-term benefits of making a personal sacrifice that will benefit
their employees and ultimately them.  Happy employees = loyal employees.
It's a win-win deal for all.


On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com>wrote:

>  And speaking of biting, keep in mind that rants on the internet can have
> a way of coming back and biting you...
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> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
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>  Well put, nice words Andy.  (And others).
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> They might be lowballing to find someone serious about the position, not
> the paycheck.  If you bite, they may make it worth your while if you are
> committed.
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> *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:27 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT: Salary rant
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>  Chris,
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> It’s tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are
> employed are right there with you.  Salary cuts, benefit cost increases,
> insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s, furloughs,
> FREAKIN’ COMISSION PLAN RESTRUCTURES (I fell better).  The cut sucks, I
> understand, but you’re standing there with an FULL TIME OFFER LETTER.  To
> many IT guys that are stupid smart are now bagging groceries…
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> I encourage everyone in this situation to look long term; the here and now
> is not fun but it is temporary. “This too, shall pass”, wrote the psalmist.
> I would use the opportunity you have been given to rise above the morale,
> fear\doom & gloom and stand out; i.e. all of you be the rock star in your
> current position(s).  It’s a killer opportunity, as the fat has been trimmed
> and orgs are now focusing on everything & everyone with laser precision.
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> Be the best… [1]
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> Shook
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> [1] This could be perceived as an unintentional Karate Kid reference
> (tournament music….*You’re the best, around.  No one’s ever gunna beat you
> down*) but that was not the intent. J
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> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar <
> christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote:
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> I know I’m not going to get a any sympathy here, due to the unemployment
> rate, and the economy in general, but needed to vent a little. Was hired as
> a contract to hire position last year. Great company, close to home, good
> salary. 6 months in they cut my salary by 10% to the contracting company,
> which was then passed on to me. I was told at the time, that if/when I was
> offered full time employment, I would be brought on with the initial salary
> I had started at. Just go the official offer, and it’s 5% below that. I know
> I should be thankful I even have a job, which I am. But I still feel like
> they are low-balling me just because of the economy. If the economy would be
> better and more IT jobs out there, I’d tell them to take a hike and see what
> happens. Can’t afford to do that right now with a mortgage and 2 kids. For
> once I just wish someone would offer me what was promised. Sorry, not
> looking to offend anyone out there. Just blowing off some steam.
>
> Chris
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