Or BackupExec can now do this. (Say it was purged from deleted items). -----Original Message----- From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 10:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software
Yes you do. It's called Deleted Items Retention. -----Original Message----- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Yes, but you don't have any way to restore *just one message* with NTBackup. :-) Agree that I should have been a bit more specific... If you want to be able to back up mailbox by mailbox, etc. you have to "pay to play" with Exchange. Other email server software, no so much. :-) -----Original Message----- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Not to discount what you know about Exchange but... 1. I don't think any DB should be scanned by an AV program that doesn't recognize it as such. Ninja is stellar at this. 2. I'm backing up my E2K7 DBs with the native windowsbackup, no extra cost to me. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I, A+, N+, VSP4, VTSP4 -----Original Message----- From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 2:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Mail server software Exactly! That's one of my concerns... Antivirus has to be told to overlook certain directories and you have to have an "exchange-aware" antivirus or buy a special "plugin" for the antivirus to allow it to scan the Exchange DB. AFAIK, most of the "alternatives" (at least Kerio) doesn't have this restriction. Not to mention having to buy special add-ons for your archiving solution just to back up the email store. Oh, and while it's not a problem now, up until the most recent version of Exchange, you couldn't have more than one message store and if it got too big, it would virtually implode from being so big. On the reasons why I don't like Outlook, the 2 GB PST file size is a biggie. :-) Although the main reason they get that big is that idiots like to send large files via email...and email is NOT a file transfer application. :-) -----Original Message----- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:44 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Mail server software On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Brian Desmond<br...@briandesmond.com> wrote: > What's the problem with the database engine? There's been a massive > amount of engineering work in that space - I don't expect it's going anywhere. I can't speak for the OP... but the fact that the Exchange IS is a giant binary blob, completely opaque for the most part, requiring special tools to work with it, has always made me somewhat uncomfortable. I worked with a Cyrus mail system once that was really sweet. It could handle many more users on much smaller hardware vs Exchange at the time, and all the mail was still stored in plain text files (one per message). You could analyze the message store with the "more" command if you had to. I don't think we ever had to, but it was nice to know you had the option. I like simple systems; they tend to be more robust. Exchange has always struck me as being more complex than it needed to be. In particular, Exchange is pretty fragile when you mistreat it. There's not much you can do to a Cryus mail server that will result in major data loss; you can reconstruct from basics if you have to. Exchange, sheesh, in 2000, all you had to do was run a file search against the "M: drive" and the server would implode. 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