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From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? Isn't there a 80's hair metal song called Tease Me, Please Me or something like that? <Shook goes to new tab with Google> Shook From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list? Shook stop reading this message right now!!! Love Shookie baby, and I really LOVE to tease him. At the risk of shocking this list, Shook is actually a very nice guy, southern gentleman and all that. He's one of the few people from this list that I've actually had the chance to meet in person. Ok, I'll resume normal Shookie bashing now ;) Sometimes the banter and rabbit trails of threads going waaaayyyy OT is what keeps me sane on some days. I wouldn't want that to change at all. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jeff Brown <2jbr...@gmail.com> wrote: I've been lurking here for a while and for the life of me I can't figure out if SHOOK is LOVED or HATED!!! But I think you are 100% correct. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote: +1 The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely good group of people. I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum. Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part of an otherwise dismal day! Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this. -- ME2 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Bob Fronk<b...@btrfronk.com> wrote: > I wouldn't want this list to change one bit. Sometimes I read the very OT > stuff, sometimes not. We get to know each other on this list and most of us > have never seen or spoken to one another. > > > > Truly, this thread is just more "noise" and the op is just adding to it by > starting the subject in the first place. > > > > Sort by conversation and liberal use of DEL is all that is needed. > > > > I find much value in this group and hope to see it continue to prosper. > > > > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? > > > > This list has always had its noise, it's unavoidable. It definitely seems to > be higher during the Summer months when the traffic is low. > > > > That being said, it's an invaluable resource. > > > > Don Guyer > > Systems Engineer - Information Services > > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group > > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue > > Devon, PA 19333 > > Direct: (610) 993-3299 > > Fax: (610) 650-5306 > > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com > > > > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? > > > > I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't delete the > messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that hard just to > ignore a thread, not read it, and move on? Read what's important. Most on > topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo. > > > > I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust within the > contributors. It gives my a good laugh too from time to time. Stu always > seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt. > > > > -Sam > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list? > > Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has its > moments..). > > Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the signal itself > has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot worse.. > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael B. Smith > <mich...@owa.smithcons.com> wrote: > > If it weren't for OWA 2010's conversation view, I would've had to drop out > awhile ago. Thankfully, the Exchange list isn't quite as noisy. > > The only other "quality" forums I know of also have high-noise. > > ________________________________________ > From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:03 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? > > Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting 75 of > them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of them > isn't scalable. > > I'm with Ben - can we either have less noise, or can someone recommend a > better list? > > Cheers > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] > Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 6:14 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? > > I'd be worried more if that 25% actually took up 25% of my time. But the > delete key's a beautiful thing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:09 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Good NT sysadmin list? > > Anyone here know of a good email list to discuss NT sysadmin issues? > > Seriously, folks, the signal-to-noise ratio on this list is going to hell. > Today we had 15 messages on the definition of a word (here's a > tip: www.google.com), 37 on a cartoon, 8 on banjos, 5 on the security of > Mac's, 7 that were basically bitching about lack of recognition in one's > job, 4 asking if the list was up (email asking if email was working?!?), and > 1 get-well wish in a 3-day-old banned thread. That's 77. Oh, and about 20 > that were actually something like on-topic. > That's a ratio of about 4:1, or 25%. > > Twenty five percent. Ponder that a bit. Would you work for 25% of your > pay? Would you pass a student with a 25% grade average? > > I think it's one thing to have the occasional off-topic message or thread, > or occasional joke. This is something else entirely. This is the > occasional on-topic message in a sea of crap. I've seen Stu kill more > threads in the past 7 days than I've seen him do in the previous year. Is > it too much to ask that people act like adults and exercise a little > self-discipline? > > Whatever happened to "on-topic and low noise"? > > I realize I've been a sometime contributor to some of this myself, and from > this point forward I'm going to strive not to be. 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