Even the admin people don't need admin rights. Runas does the trick... 2009/9/2 John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>: > That makes sense… I can gradually get people used to not being local admins. > J Most of customer service is NOT a local admin (only power user at most.) > It’s mainly just the admin people who are local administrators on their > machines. > > > > > > From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:07 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Local admins (was RE: MSINFO popping up) > > > > We’ve resolved to take away admin perms as systems are ordered with Windows > 7. No new PC for you unless you are NOT an admin – seems to be a reasonable > line in the sand. This will allow us to work out the issues with “admin > required apps” on a more reasonable schedule too, since the user will not > see any downtime. > > David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER > NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION > (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 > > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:56 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: MSINFO popping up > > > > We’re battling this right now. Getting the desktop support team to try and > pinpoint why the end-users “need” to have admin rights has been a huge > roadblock. > > > > Don Guyer > > Systems Engineer - Information Services > > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group > > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue > > Devon, PA 19333 > > Direct: (610) 993-3299 > > Fax: (610) 650-5306 > > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com > > > > From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:51 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: MSINFO popping up > > > > +1 > > > > It was a heck of a fight with our desktop support here, but I won about 1.5 > years ago and we took it away from everyone. Lot of crying and a fair amount > of work getting a few things to work. > > > > But they came up to me a few months ago and apologized and thanked me. Their > life is much easier now. And most importantly it is much better for the > users, their machines are not blown up all the time anymore. > > > > > > > > From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:klu...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 2:44 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: MSINFO popping up > > > > > > > > Yes, it takes work, but it can be done. Our desktops have been > significantly more stable and 100% infection free since we did the lockdown > about 7 years ago. My license compliance is as good as I think can be. > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:32 PM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> > wrote: > > Well, that’s all well and good for technical people like you and me, but for > non-technical people, it’s hard to do so… especially when they don’t have > elevated privileges on the domain. J > > > > > > From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:57 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: MSINFO popping up > > > > Sorry I forgot to add IMNSHO. I don't run as administrator on any box > unless I absolutely need to and only for the task at hand. > > > > Jon > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > > He should be running as an User not an Admin. That is what runas is for. > > > > Jon > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:26 PM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> > wrote: > > Good point. That being said, when I ran msinfo32 on my machine, it *looked* > like what was on the user's machine. Next time it happens, I'll try to make > it a point to look at the task manager. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:22 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: MSINFO popping up > > > > Check the process in task manager. Help About could be forged. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:14 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: MSINFO popping up > > Nope. It was an MS System Info window. Or at least that's what "help > ->About" said it was. I don't know. I've never seen it before. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:01 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: MSINFO popping up > > No chance it was MSCONFIG? > > If you make changes to your startup behavior via MSCONFIG, by default it > runs again at next boot/logon. > > -sc > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:39 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: MSINFO popping up > > Well, it was definitely the Microsoft System Information tool... but > what > caused it to pop up, I haven't a clue. Just for giggles I'll go install > MalwareBytes on that machine and make sure it's not infested or > anything. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:09 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: MSINFO popping up > > Fire up task manager when it happens. See what the process is. > Msinfo.exe is > a virus/adware usually and msinfo32.exe is part of the OS. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:56 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: MSINFO popping up > > User reports that he doesn't recall any consistency in what he was doing > immediately prior to the MSINFO window popping up. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:10 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: MSINFO popping up > > 2009/9/1 John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>: >> One of my users has an HP Pavilion laptop ... > > Standard question: What release and edition of Windows, and what > Service > Pack? > >> ... starting to pop up more and more often ... turned out to be > MSINFO. > > I can't even start MSINFO from Start -> Run on my box. I have to > hunt down the icon in the Start Menu. > > What's he doing when/before MSINFO opens? What programs are running > in the background? Check startup items. I seem to recall MSINFO was > introduced as part of MS Office (way back when); maybe check around in > there? > > Do you have good anti-virus? Does the user have admin rights? > >> He says that >> typically, no matter what he does, the laptop shuts down on him > shortly >> after seeing the window pop up. > > Do you have the auto-reboot on STOP feature turned on? If so, that > often translates into "my computer is shutting off" from the users. > > We turn turn this off as part of our standard config. It's one of > Microsoft's dumber ideas, IMNSHO. 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