Not really. You negotiate your SA renewals with Microsoft the same way you can negotiate price with them up front for Licenses and SA. There is a set starting point price, but they can often times be talked down from that price. Tim
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:15 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price I wish I knew that answer :) I don't know if we saved money by not renewing SA. (I was not in charge of that decision). Is there a flat rate on what SA renewals are? ________________________________ From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price It depends on a number of factors. Like how often you upgrade and what products you use. But if you saved money by not going with SA originally, then you shouldn't be complaining about how high the price is now. You should be cheering about how much money you saved even though the price is higher now. :) Tim From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price Ok, I guess I would have to see the SA renewal rates. Would I have saved money if we bought XP with SA back in 2001 (Which it turns out we did), and renewed the SA for 8 years? (I'm finding we never renewed). Sam -----Original Message----- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price The pricing that you are now running into is exactly why SA exists. If you had purchased SA on the licenses originally you wouldn't be worrying about your upgrade cost now, you could just do it. For me it is very much worth the cost of SA to not have to worry about what version of which software package I am running. I'm just legal. It really is awesome. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price I got these a couple month's ago before the coupons. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Dickson [mailto:te...@treasurer.state.ks.us] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price We just got in some new systems last month and they came with a Free upgrade coupon. Not sure what the status on those are but I do know they expire in October I think it is. -----Original Message----- From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price But I just paid for all new system that shipped with Vista Business :( I would think the upgrade would be cheaper. Alright, what's the point of SA when they release an OS every 3 years or so? Or is that like asking what's the meaning of life? I know it's an apple 2 orange comparison, but I just upgraded my home machine to 7 for $50. I have a hard time grasping the fact they are going to charge businesses 400% MORE! ________________________________ From: Mike Hoffman [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 Price Not sure about the dollar rate, but without existing software assurance it can be expensive. The was an offer to add SA to existing machines bought in the last 6 months but that ended last month. In effect you are buying a new full license for the software, so you might want to get a financed option to spread the payments. Mike From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: 11 September 2009 8:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win 7 Price I'm getting quoted $254 to upgrade to Windows 7 Pro Volume, which supposedly includes the 15% early upgrade discount (http://preview.tinyurl.com/mlnjmg) Never been in a position that handles MS Licensing. Does this sound accurate? Seems high to me. ________________________________ From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 3:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 key You just need to install the update for the KMS service and then you can add and activate the Win7 keys. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com<mailto:br...@briandesmond.com> c - 312.731.3132 From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 3:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 key While we are on this topic, anyone do the upgrade of their KMS servers to support 2008 R2? I've done the updates on the KMS servers and retrieved my new KMS key but haven't swapped it out yet. Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com> Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 ________________________________ From: m...@drumbrae.net<mailto:m...@drumbrae.net> [mailto:m...@drumbrae.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 3:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 key Install KMS server, play with DNS, have a cuppa. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/dd197314.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd772270.aspx Mike From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: 08 September 2009 20:44 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 key Can I hijack this? I've actually never been in a position that manages purchasing licenses. It was always handled by different role. Now I am that role, how does the licensing work in a nutshell? I range between 20 and 30 deployed workstations that will be needing Win7. All of them are using WinXP Volume. They all shipped with Vista OEM's as well. (I skipped Vista). And I would like to upconvert any XP/Vista/Win7 OEM licenses that the machines ship with to Volume. I hate activations. What's the best route? TIA, Sam ________________________________ From: Jim Majorowicz [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win 7 key Yes and no. It seems that when you purchase any sort of Open license they will now issue KMS keys regardless of how many licenses you purchase. If you don't qualify for a KMS server, you'll need to request MAK keys for your licenses. I've found this needs to be done from the Licensing website, not the eOpen website. From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win 7 key I have licenses for 5 Windows 7 systems but the only key code I received is for KMS, not MAK ones, is this normal? David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 ________________________________ This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. 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