Technically speaking, its not that it isnt "broadcasted".  It's not
"advertised" in the packets.  This is a good short summary:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_set_%28802.11_network%29#Security_of_Broadcasting_SSID

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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Murray Freeman <mfree...@alanet.org>wrote:

>  So you are telling me that there are tools that can see something that
> isn't being broadcast? I'm having trouble with that concept. If I tturn off
> the power altogether, can these"tools" see my wifi? If the broadcast is shut
> off, how is it broadcasting? Finally, if these tools can see my SSID, can
> they also see the unencrypted password? I can tell you that Inssider tells
> me a lot about the wifi's it picks up including it's mac address along with
> the manufacturer of the wifi, and the channel in use. But my SSID displays
> as unknown. Either wifi is completely unsecure or it isn't. Please explain!
>
>
> *Murray *
>
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>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, May 21, 2010 1:23 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: script SSID for wireless configs
>
> Its false security.  Mainly because anyone capable of hacking your network
> can see your SSID with their toolset (its still out there in the ether).
>
> Obscurity != Security
>
> And with that, let the soapboxing begin...
>
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> ME2
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>
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Murray Freeman <mfree...@alanet.org>wrote:
>
>>  I've been "lurking" on this topic, and I have a couple of questions.
>> First, I have a wifi at home and I have the radio broadcast turned off. I'm
>> using INSSIDER software to look around my neighborhood from time to time. My
>> SSID shows up as "unknown". Obviously I have no problem connecting and if
>> someone who has never connected previously comes over, I help them by
>> telling them the SSID and password to connect. The next time they come over,
>> they connect automatically. So, my questions. First, even if you know my
>> SSID, you need to know my password or you're not going to connect. I figure
>> that without the SSID, it is even more difficult for a stranger to connect.
>> Oh, I'm using WPA2 security. I know I could use MAC filtering, but I'm
>> comfortable that I'm secure enough. Can you guys explain to me how having
>> the radio broadcast turned off makes the security lessened?
>>
>>
>> *Murray *
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 21, 2010 12:01 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: script SSID for wireless configs
>>
>>
>>
>> No real input as their decisions are already made, but like I said, they
>> are depending solely on non-broadcast of the SSID as their ‘security’, they
>> do have other proper measures in place.
>>
>> *Erik Goldoff***
>>
>> *IT  Consultant*
>>
>> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
>>
>> '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>>
>> *From:* Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 21, 2010 11:55 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: script SSID for wireless configs
>>
>>
>>
>> The post was offered as a general comment, not a response to your
>> question.  That happens around here a lot.  As IT consultant, do you not
>> have any capacity to advise the agency on security matters?  Or keep them
>> from shooting themselves in the foot?  I guess not...
>>
>>
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 21, 2010 11:50 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: script SSID for wireless configs
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you but that was not the question.  To the agency, this is one layer
>> of security, in addition to WPA, etc.  The question is whether the wireless
>> config could be scripted.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Erik Goldoff***
>>
>> *IT  Consultant*
>>
>> *Systems, Networks, & Security *
>>
>> '  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '
>>
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