I have 2wire too...those things are great. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Murray Freeman <mfree...@alanet.org> wrote:
> Of the dozen or so wifi's that I can see with inssider, one is WEP, my > neighbor behind me is WPA2 and everyone else is WPA. Every now and then I > see an unencrypted wifi, and I suspect it's a "honeypot". I'm WPA2! Most of > the neighbors have "2wire" names, and I've been told that those are AT&T > Uverse users. > > > Murray > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 2:59 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: script SSID for wireless configs > > If drive by intruders see either WPA or WPA2 they will most likely keep > going. > > If they see WEP they might stick around after the 30 seconds it takes to > crack it, and if it's open then they're golden. > > I'd be more worried about the 13-year old neighbor boy who is running Linux > brute-forcing your network than someone outside of your neighborhood. > > That "unkown" SSID is more tempting than not. > > I use my street address as my SSID, FWIW. > > Kurt > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:47, Murray Freeman <mfree...@alanet.org> wrote: > > Thanks Micheal, that clears it up somewhat. It sounds to me that with > > the number of wifi's in my neighborhood, I don't have to be very > > concerned because the rest of the neighborhood are broadcasting and > > several use their family name. I'm going to assume that they would > > tend to draw the hackers more than my "unknown" wifi, and most of them > are WPA whereas I'm WPA2. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > Murray > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 2:34 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: script SSID for wireless configs > > > > Technically speaking, its not that it isnt "broadcasted". It's not > > "advertised" in the packets. This is a good short summary: > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_set_%28802.11_network%29#Security > > _of_Broadcasting_SSID > > > > -- > > ME2 > > > > > > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Murray Freeman <mfree...@alanet.org> > > wrote: > >> > >> So you are telling me that there are tools that can see something > >> that isn't being broadcast? I'm having trouble with that concept. If > >> I tturn off the power altogether, can these"tools" see my wifi? If > >> the broadcast is shut off, how is it broadcasting? Finally, if these > >> tools can see my SSID, can they also see the unencrypted password? I > >> can tell you that Inssider tells me a lot about the wifi's it picks > >> up including it's mac address along with the manufacturer of the > >> wifi, and the channel in use. But my SSID displays as unknown. Either > wifi is completely unsecure or it isn't. Please explain! > >> > >> > >> Murray > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 1:23 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: script SSID for wireless configs > >> > >> Its false security. Mainly because anyone capable of hacking your > >> network can see your SSID with their toolset (its still out there in the > ether). > >> > >> Obscurity != Security > >> > >> And with that, let the soapboxing begin... > >> > >> -- > >> ME2 > >> > >> > >> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Murray Freeman > >> <mfree...@alanet.org> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I've been "lurking" on this topic, and I have a couple of questions. > >>> First, I have a wifi at home and I have the radio broadcast turned > >>> off. I'm using INSSIDER software to look around my neighborhood from > >>> time to time. My SSID shows up as "unknown". Obviously I have no > >>> problem connecting and if someone who has never connected previously > >>> comes over, I help them by telling them the SSID and password to > >>> connect. The next time they come over, they connect automatically. > >>> So, my questions. First, even if you know my SSID, you need to know > >>> my password or you're not going to connect. I figure that without the > SSID, it is even more difficult for a stranger to connect. > >>> Oh, I'm using WPA2 security. I know I could use MAC filtering, but > >>> I'm comfortable that I'm secure enough. Can you guys explain to me > >>> how having the radio broadcast turned off makes the security lessened? > >>> > >>> > >>> Murray > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 12:01 PM > >>> To: NT System Admin Issues > >>> Subject: RE: script SSID for wireless configs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> No real input as their decisions are already made, but like I said, > >>> they are depending solely on non-broadcast of the SSID as their > >>> 'security', they do have other proper measures in place. > >>> > >>> Erik Goldoff > >>> > >>> IT Consultant > >>> > >>> Systems, Networks, & Security > >>> > >>> ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' > >>> > >>> From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:55 AM > >>> To: NT System Admin Issues > >>> Subject: RE: script SSID for wireless configs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The post was offered as a general comment, not a response to your > >>> question. That happens around here a lot. As IT consultant, do you > >>> not have any capacity to advise the agency on security matters? Or > >>> keep them from shooting themselves in the foot? I guess not... > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Carl > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:50 AM > >>> To: NT System Admin Issues > >>> Subject: RE: script SSID for wireless configs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thank you but that was not the question. To the agency, this is one > >>> layer of security, in addition to WPA, etc. The question is whether > >>> the wireless config could be scripted. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Erik Goldoff > >>> > >>> IT Consultant > >>> > >>> Systems, Networks, & Security > >>> > >>> ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ < > http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
