The enterprise tools that most support vendors have work with MS SQL
or Oracle.  backup, monitoring, etc.  Some do the others but not all
nor convieniently.  Also, having fewer products to support internally
means more expertise can be developed.

I am seeing more apps that use PostGRE or MySQL as a back-end products
but one of the big issues is the documentation and expertise to run
those systems at the same scale of MS SQL just isn't out in the wide
spread community yet.  The tools are still catching up.

Can they do the larger things, for the most part yes.  Is 'most part'
probably good enough for more then most use?  Sure.  Remember, IT is
slow and set in their ways and for good reason, we all hate getting up
at 2am to that darn phone call.

It doesn't help that Sun bought MySQL AB and Oracle bought Sun so
there is confusion in that area now as well.  PostGRE for all of it's
advocates just doesn't seem to have as wide spread adoption as MySQL
despite it's reputation.

And 'outside of IT norms, is rogue.  Of course, we all find to many
damn 'enterprise Access databases and I would really rather find a
'rogue' MySQL db then that.

Steevn

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:
> I believe (and it maps to my experience as well) that Brian uses "rogue" as 
> meaning "outside of established corporate standards".
>
> Arguably, MS-SQL reached performance respectability with SQL 2000 and feature 
> respectability with SQL 2005. So... I agree with your statement.
>
> However, the "MS-SQL runtime" that MSFT provided "for free", followed by MSDE 
> "for free" and the Access-to-SQL upgrade wizard "for free" did LOTS of help 
> to give MS-SQL the boost it needed...
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:57 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Whining...
>
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Brian Desmond <br...@briandesmond.com> wrote:
>> Honestly, having worked in hundreds of large scale orgs, the three
>> Michael listed are the three you're going to find operating in
>> datacenters outside of rogue instances and the occasional in-the-box app 
>> specific DB.
>
>  In a large organization, I would expect to find heavy deployment of at least 
> one big commercial platform as the centerpiece, but lots of other stuff on 
> the edge in supporting roles.  You dismiss them as "rogue", I take it, but I 
> don't see why.  Take away the small pieces and the big pieces usually grind 
> to a halt.  Take away the big pieces and the small pieces are pointless.  You 
> need all the pieces for a machine to work.
>
>   In my experience, big organizations never have homogeneous systems.
>
>  It wasn't all *that* long ago the MS-SQL was excluded from the "real 
> database" category by some because it was stuck on 32-bit pee sea boxes and 
> simply couldn't scale up to the likes of big Sun/IBM/HP/DEC/etc. systems.
>
> -- Ben
>
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