Seems very likely to be the issue. The way Windows handles DNS - well, you'd think it depended on it being right, or something! :-P
Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 3:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ex2010 not delivering to yahoo.com addresses Ha. Thanks. That put me in the right direction. So, it looks like there was a DNS issue. SMTP,yahoo.com,>,DNS server returned ErrorRetry reported by 0.0.0.0 I checked the settings and the person who setup the system had the secondary DNS server set to a decommissioned server's IP address. I corrected that and also gave the VM a restart. Mail flowing to yahoo.com correctly now. I'm surprised that the secondary DNS would be causing the issue...and since I didn't test thinks before giving the server a bump, I can't really confirm that fixed it, rather than just the restart. Bill Michael B. Smith wrote: Sorry. That wasn't what you asked before. :-P :) Altho, if I was thinking straight, (I'm not - I'm writing coursework this week and for the next several weeks), I would've figured that out. Sorry. You probably want to be looking at the connection logs, not message tracking. By default, they live at C:\Program Files\Microsoft\Exchange Server\V14\TransportRoles\Logs\Connectivity - and they are enabled by default. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 2:36 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ex2010 not delivering to yahoo.com addresses Michael, Do you know if there is a way to get useful tracking information using the commandlet since i'm not on SP1 yet? I can run this: [PS] C:\Windows\system32>Get-MessageTrackingLog -Start "09/10/2010 9:00AM" -End "09/10/2010 5:00PM" -Sender "bhumphries@ chasinggremlins.com<mailto:bhumphr...@%0bchasinggremlins.com>" This gives me this list of events:: EventId Source Sender Recipients MessageSubject ------- ------ ------ ---------- -------------- RECEIVE SMTP bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com<mailto:bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com> {humphries_b...@yahoo.com<mailto:humphries_b...@yahoo.com>} test message RECEIVE SMTP bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com<mailto:bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com> {b...@hedgedigger.com<mailto:b...@hedgedigger.com>} test 10:42 SEND SMTP bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com<mailto:bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com> {b...@hedgedigger.com<mailto:b...@hedgedigger.com>} test 10:42 RECEIVE SMTP bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com<mailto:bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com> {bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com<mailto:bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com>} Summary of junk emails blocked... SEND SMTP bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com<mailto:bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com> {bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com<mailto:bhumphr...@chasinggremlins.com>} Summary of junk emails blocked... But I don't readily see any commands that would actually tell me why it isn't successfully getting a SEND for the yahoo email address. Is there some other way to monitor this? maybe I'm missing something available in the queue viewer? Thanks for any help. Michael B. Smith wrote: Yes, from inside the Exchange Management Console on the Edge Server, in the Toolbox node, should be a Message-Tracking application that doesn't fire up ECP but runs as an MMC. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ex2010 not delivering to yahoo.com addresses So, does message tracking gui work on edge server in SP1? I understand that it is outside of the forest and can't make use of AD, but it seems like tracking messages from an edge transport would be important for tracking down problems with email flow or delivery...and connecting to AD shouldn't be necessary to provide useful information. Now to figure out how to use that Get-MessageTrackingLog commandlet. Bill Michael B. Smith wrote: I'll grant you that the user experience may be surprising, but message tracking works as it is intended to do. GUI-based message tracking works within the Exchange Active Directory forest. Edge Transport servers are not part of the same Active Directory forest. Permissions and roles are not shared between the Exchange organization and Edge transport servers, since permissions are based on the Active Directory forest where the Exchange organization is installed. The message was received by a hub transport server and handed off to an edge server. At that point, it was delivered to a different email system. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 1:31 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: ex2010 not delivering to yahoo.com addresses Thanks, Michael. And it looks like message tracking using the gui is a known broken thing in 2010, huh? Michael B. Smith wrote: You need to look at the message tracking on the edge server itself. OWA/ECP can't talk outside of the domain boundary (it's a security boundary, and intentional). Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] *Sent:* Friday, September 10, 2010 11:59 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* ex2010 not delivering to yahoo.com addresses Hi all, So, we have recently installed exchange 2010 in our shop to get some experience with it. i have some weird issue. It seems that messages going to yahoo.com are sitting in the queue on the edge transport server and giving our users delayed message NDRs. I have used telnet from the machine to send a message to yahoo without a problem. If I track one of these messages using the new nifty tracking in OWA it tells me the messages have been handed off: /Submitted 9/10/2010 10:37 AM The message was submitted. Transferred 9/10/2010 10:37 AM The message was successfully handed off to a different e-mail system. This is as far as we can track it. /Any ideas what could could be causing this or what else I should be looking at? This Exchange is a totally different beast from 2003. 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