The X3 was a result of yield issues at the plant. For them to monetize it they'd have to QA all X3's to X4 spec which would have failed in a large percentage.
-Anders On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:20 AM, Bill Humphries <nt...@hedgedigger.com>wrote: > AMD sort of embraced that model... > > The X3s were often X4s with one inactive core. Lots of people successfully > unlocked that core. AMD just didn't try to monetize it further like Intel. > > Bill > Andrew S. Baker wrote: > > I disagree that the costs are being subsidized at the low end. It costs > less overall to manage the product as a single unit with unlockable > features than a two separate products with hard coded features. > > And since the primary competitor has still not embraced that model, it is > still possible for someone to compare the value of both the low end > processor and the high one independently. I'll very that both levels of > consumer well get better pricing than before, even as Intel bags more > profits. > > -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker <http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker> > > Sent from my Motorola Droid > > On Sep 21, 2010 6:00 PM, "Ben Scott" <mailvor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> But another way to l... > That works as long as no one can offer a comparable but lower-priced > product. If your price is high because your costs are high (living, > education, experience, etc.), chances are good you'll have continued > work -- potential competitors will likely have similar costs. If your > price is high while your costs are low, that's another matter. If > competition moves in, your customer base is likely to defect en masse. > Even if you lower your prices to compete, you now have a reputation > as having a high price/cost ratio. Customers often dislike that, and > express their dislike with their wallets. > > Since legislative action is part of the big picture (with the > hardware thing), popular opinion can matter for that reason, too. > > > >> High price/cost ratios tend to yield unstable long-term > >> economic relationships, unless presti... > They're only better for the customers who buy the product with the > lower price and get the lower intended performance. The customers who > pay for more performance get a worse deal. Both parties get the same > physical material. Both benefit from the same NRE. But the high-end > guys pay more. They end up subsidizing the low-end guys. Sometimes > the high-end people don't mind, but sometimes they do. When people > propose taxing the rich to give to the poor, the rich tend to put up a > pretty big stink, for example. > > > > Frankly, I think that the hardware side of the house has suffered with > low > > margins as compared ... > I agree completely. But weren't you just making a point about the > scope of this discussion? ;-) > > > >>> I think you're arguing a narrower scope of issues than some other > people > >>> are. > > > > Yes, I am... > Well, your choice, but don't be surprised when you get persistent > confusion/disagreement. One can "win" any argument by carefully > defining terms. If mutual understanding is the goal, you need to > change minds. :) > > > -- Ben > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsof... > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
