Meh, I know of many SMB's that have been out of commission or had troubling issue for days/weeks at at ime simply because they generally can't (or don't) pay the costs and or attention necessary to have the support/parts/personnel available to deal with issues.
-sc > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:48 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Summary of the Amazon EC2 and Amazon RDS Service > Disruption > > Indeed. But, the market is touting that the cloud is especially suitable for > SMBs, and the large/complex failures that Amazon suffered are not normally > experienced in those environments. The SMB market is where I live, and by > going to the cloud I would subject my company to a risk for which I don't see > a good, or indeed any, mitigation. > > Hence the question: What's the mitigation for a downed cloud? > > > Kurt > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:39, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com> > wrote: > > Not all outages are simple failed component swaps. > > > > As a matter of fact, those tend to be the simple issues. The complex ones > often involve human error, or unanticipated system interactions and/or > cascading events, as in the case with this recent AWS event. As ASB points > out, those can (and do) happen in any datacenter, regardless if it's yours, or > in the cloud. > > > > -sc > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:37 PM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: Summary of the Amazon EC2 and Amazon RDS Service > >> Disruption > >> > >> Where's my 4 hour response time when the service fails? > >> > >> I can get a new mobo or hard drive, router or switch when I call the > >> vendor, or I can even pre-order one and have it on the shelf if it's > >> that critical - where's the new cloud when the current one is down? > >> > >> Is there high availability between cloud vendors - or do you have > >> some other mitigation strategy in mind? > >> > >> Kurt > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:32, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > "The Cloud" is already ready for production. > >> > Hosted Data Centers, which is a concept we are all acquainted with, > >> > are not immune to failures either. > >> > Failures happen. Just make sure your entire mitigation plan is not > >> > "the vendor's got it". > >> > > >> > > >> > ASB (Professional Bio) > >> > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Lesson: Large distributed systems management is hard. > >> >> > >> >> That's a really good read. > >> >> > >> >> I think after three or four more large scale problems like that, > >> >> some clouds might be ready for production. > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 06:03, Andrew S. 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