Precisely... Every solution requires some level of mitigation of risk, and even then, some mitigations need their own mitigations. Everyone has to weigh the risk and make their own choice.
But there is value in an intelligent sourcing strategy for services. *ASB *(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>) *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... * On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com>wrote: > Meh, I know of many SMB's that have been out of commission or had troubling > issue for days/weeks at at ime simply because they generally can't (or > don't) pay the costs and or attention necessary to have the > support/parts/personnel available to deal with issues. > > -sc > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:48 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: Summary of the Amazon EC2 and Amazon RDS Service > > Disruption > > > > Indeed. But, the market is touting that the cloud is especially suitable > for > > SMBs, and the large/complex failures that Amazon suffered are not > normally > > experienced in those environments. The SMB market is where I live, and by > > going to the cloud I would subject my company to a risk for which I don't > see > > a good, or indeed any, mitigation. > > > > Hence the question: What's the mitigation for a downed cloud? > > > > > > Kurt > > > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:39, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com> > > wrote: > > > Not all outages are simple failed component swaps. > > > > > > As a matter of fact, those tend to be the simple issues. The complex > ones > > often involve human error, or unanticipated system interactions and/or > > cascading events, as in the case with this recent AWS event. As ASB > points > > out, those can (and do) happen in any datacenter, regardless if it's > yours, or > > in the cloud. > > > > > > -sc > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > > >> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 1:37 PM > > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > > >> Subject: Re: Summary of the Amazon EC2 and Amazon RDS Service > > >> Disruption > > >> > > >> Where's my 4 hour response time when the service fails? > > >> > > >> I can get a new mobo or hard drive, router or switch when I call the > > >> vendor, or I can even pre-order one and have it on the shelf if it's > > >> that critical - where's the new cloud when the current one is down? > > >> > > >> Is there high availability between cloud vendors - or do you have > > >> some other mitigation strategy in mind? > > >> > > >> Kurt > > >> > > >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:32, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > "The Cloud" is already ready for production. > > >> > Hosted Data Centers, which is a concept we are all acquainted with, > > >> > are not immune to failures either. > > >> > Failures happen. Just make sure your entire mitigation plan is not > > >> > "the vendor's got it". > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ASB (Professional Bio) > > >> > Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market... > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Lesson: Large distributed systems management is hard. > > >> >> > > >> >> That's a really good read. > > >> >> > > >> >> I think after three or four more large scale problems like that, > > >> >> some clouds might be ready for production. > > >> >> > > >> >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 06:03, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> >> > http://aws.amazon.com/message/65648/ > > >> >> > > > >> >> > This is a very good read... > > >> >> > > > >> >> > -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Sent from my Motorola Droid > > >> >> > > > >> >> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! > > >> >> > ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE- > > Enterprise/> > > >> >> > ~ > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
