Hi!

I feel we should make it clear that being in any specific category does not 
give you a free pass on any of the other rules. We should make that explicit, 
otherwise this looks fine to me.

Best Regards,
Hameer Abbasi

> On 3. Aug 2018, at 10:57, Stefan van der Walt <stef...@berkeley.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On August 3, 2018 10:35:57 Stefan van der Walt <stef...@berkeley.edu> wrote:
> 
>> On August 3, 2018 09:50:38 Robert Kern <robert.k...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:01 PM Robert Kern <robert.k...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:robert.k...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> <looks back> Nope, concision is definitely not my strength. But I hope I 
>>> made the argument clear, at least.
>>> 
>>> No, wait. I got it:
>>> 
>>> Bad actors use "diversity of political beliefs" in bad faith as cover for 
>>> undermining the goals of the diversity statement. Marginalized groups want 
>>> more assurance that our community (1) isn't one of those bad actors and (2) 
>>> is willing and capable of resisting those bad actors when they come.
>> 
>> 
>> That's a very useful summary; thank you. 
>> 
>> I think we can fairly easily add a sentence that encourages participation 
>> from a wide diversity of people, while making it clear that including 
>> someone in the conversation does not give them free reigns in contradiction 
>> with the rest of the guidelines. 
>> 
>> Ralf, if you agree, shall we do this for SciPy, and use the new version for 
>> NumPy too?
> 
> 
> Although, perhaps, a better question to answer is how many people feel that 
> the current document is deficient, and does not go far enough in stating 
> explicitly what we want from our community interactions. 
> 
> It is always hard to tell the opinion of the sometimes silent majority? 
> 
> Best regards, 
> Stéfan 
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