I tried building nut 2.0.5 pre2 from source using the user=nut and make usb options, and got the same results. It works from -u root, but upsd gets a "connection refused" message.

Same messages when I run newhidups directly. I can't find any processes connected to the UPS.

I am open to suggestions. Giving up isn't an option for me, I really do need to get this running and more to the point, I'm writing an article about this which is due in a few days.

here's some of the output I've gotten:
terrarium:/usr/local/ups/etc# /usr/local/ups/bin/upsdrvctl start
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.0.5-pre2
Network UPS Tools: 0.28 USB communication driver 0.28 - core 0.30 (2.0.5-pre2)

No matching HID UPS found
Driver failed to start (exit status=1)
terrarium:/usr/local/ups/etc# /usr/local/ups/bin/upsdrvctl stop
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.0.5-pre2
Can't open /var/state/ups/newhidups-belkin-ups.pid: No such file or directory
terrarium:/usr/local/ups/etc# /usr/local/ups/bin/upsdrvctl -u root start
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.0.5-pre2
Network UPS Tools: 0.28 USB communication driver 0.28 - core 0.30 (2.0.5-pre2)

Detected a UPS: Belkin/UPS
Using subdriver: Belkin HID 0.1
terrarium:/usr/local/ups/etc# /usr/local/ups/bin/upsdrvctl -u root stop
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.0.5-pre2
terrarium:/usr/local/ups/etc# /usr/local/ups/bin/upsdrvctl -u nut stop
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.0.5-pre2
Can't open /var/state/ups/newhidups-belkin-ups.pid: No such file or directory
terrarium:/usr/local/ups/etc# /usr/local/ups/bin/upsdrvctl -u nut start
Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.0.5-pre2
Network UPS Tools: 0.28 USB communication driver 0.28 - core 0.30 (2.0.5-pre2)

No matching HID UPS found
Driver failed to start (exit status=1)
terrarium:/usr/local/ups/etc#


At 11:48 PM 2/23/07, you wrote:
At 06:14 PM 2/23/07, you wrote:
Back to square one. Is there any other process running that might
already be attached to that device? -- Peter

these are the only hal processes running
terrarium:/usr/lib/hal# ps axjf

/usr/sbin/hald
 2590  2591  2590  2590 ?           -1 S        0   0:00  \_ hald-runner
2591 2597 2590 2590 ? -1 S 105 0:00 \_ hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpid socket /var/run/acpid.socket 2591 2603 2590 2590 ? -1 S 105 0:00 \_ hald-addon-keyboard: listening on /dev/input/event0 2591 2617 2590 2590 ? -1 S 0 0:01 \_ hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc

/usr/lib/hal# usbmodules --device /proc/bus/usb/002/006    usbhid

from dmesg:
hiddev96: USB HID v1.11 Device [Belkin UPS] on usb-0000:00:0b.0-5.3

from messages:
Feb 23 14:17:25 terrarium kernel: usb 2-5.3: USB disconnect, address 3
Feb 23 14:22:23 terrarium kernel: usb 2-5.3: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6 Feb 23 14:22:23 terrarium kernel: usb 2-5.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Feb 23 14:22:23 terrarium kernel: hiddev96: USB HID v1.11 Device [Belkin UPS] on usb-0000:00:0b.0-5.3


Is there anywhere else I should be looking?

thanks
A.Lizard


A.Lizard wrote:
>
> At 01:01 PM 2/23/07, you wrote:
> I tried the procedure - no change.
>
> terrarium:/usr/lib/hal# /lib/nut/newhidups -DDD   -a belkin-ups
> Network UPS Tools: 0.28 USB communication driver 0.28 - core 0.30 (2.0.5)
>
> debug level is '3'
> Checking device (050D/0551) (002/006)
> - VendorID: 050d
> - ProductID: 0551
> - Manufacturer: unknown
> - Product: unknown
> - Serial Number: unknown
> - Bus: 002
> Trying to match device
> Device matches
> failed to claim USB device, trying 2 more time(s)...
> detaching kernel driver from USB device...
> failed to detach kernel driver from USB device...
> trying again to claim USB device...
> failed to claim USB device, trying 1 more time(s)...
> detaching kernel driver from USB device...
> failed to detach kernel driver from USB device...
> trying again to claim USB device...
> failed to claim USB device, trying 0 more time(s)...
> detaching kernel driver from USB device...
> failed to detach kernel driver from USB device...
> trying again to claim USB device...
> Unable to get HID descriptor (error sending control message: Operation not
> permitted)
> HID descriptor, method 2: (9 bytes) => 09 21 11 01 21 01 22 a8 01
> HID descriptor retrieved (Reportlen = 424)
> Unable to get Report descriptor (-1): Operation not permitted
> Checking device (04A9/1094) (002/005)
> - VendorID: 04a9
> - ProductID: 1094
> - Manufacturer: unknown
> - Product: unknown
> - Serial Number: unknown
> - Bus: 002
> Trying to match device
> Device does not match - skipping
> Checking device (058F/9254) (002/002)
> - VendorID: 058f
> - ProductID: 9254
> - Manufacturer: unknown
> - Product: unknown
> - Serial Number: unknown
> - Bus: 002
> Trying to match device
> Device does not match - skipping
> Checking device (04A9/220E) (002/004)
> - VendorID: 04a9
> - ProductID: 220e
> - Manufacturer: unknown
> - Product: unknown
> - Serial Number: unknown
> - Bus: 002
> Trying to match device
> Device does not match - skipping
> Checking device (0000/0000) (002/001)
> - VendorID: 0000
> - ProductID: 0000
> - Manufacturer: unknown
> - Product: unknown
> - Serial Number: unknown
> - Bus: 002
> Trying to match device
> Device does not match - skipping
> Checking device (0000/0000) (001/001)
> - VendorID: 0000
> - ProductID: 0000
> - Manufacturer: unknown
> - Product: unknown
> - Serial Number: unknown
> - Bus: 001
> Trying to match device
> Device does not match - skipping
> No appropriate HID device found
> No matching HID UPS found
> terrarium:/usr/lib/hal# exit
> exit
>
> terrarium:/home/alizard# /lib/nut/newhidups -DDD -u root  -a belkin-ups
> Network UPS Tools: 0.28 USB communication driver 0.28 - core 0.30 (2.0.5)
>
> debug level is '3'
> Checking device (050D/0551) (002/006)
> - VendorID: 050d
> - ProductID: 0551
> - Manufacturer: Belkin
> - Product: UPS
> - Serial Number: unknown
> - Bus: 002
> Trying to match device
> Device matches
> failed to claim USB device, trying 2 more time(s)...
> detaching kernel driver from USB device...
> trying again to claim USB device...
>
>
> >[please, keep the traffic on the list]
> >
> >2007/2/23, A.Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>At 05:12 AM 2/23/07, you wrote:
> >> >Not sure you've seen it, so I step up:
> >> >
> >> >in the "ps" output, there is: hald-addon-hid-ups
> >> >this is an HAL addon, based upon the same code as our old hidups...
> >> >this is what I'm working on in NUT to replace.
> >> >I've not thought at it before since I've completely disabled hiddev
> >> >support in kernel for MGE units, but any other brand that is HID
> >> >compliant, should face it.
> >> >
> >> >the detach method might fail since the driver is _used_, not only loaded!
> >> >
> >> >Note that the above is the reason why I've not thrown out _our_ HAL
> >> >support: we still need a way to instruct the HAL autoloaded drivers
> >> >not to run if we want to use the classic nut . And this will be done
> >> >through the new config (nut.conf -> MODE)
> >> >
> >> >I've no clean solution apart from removing / renaming the addon...
> >>
> >>So I should try finding the addon and removing or renaming it?
> >
> >right
> >
> >simply unplug your UPS' USB cord
> >rename the hald-addon-hid-ups file (should be somewhere in
> >/usr/lib/hal ; use rpm or deb to query the content exact and path of
> >the hal package)
> >plug back your USB cord,
> >retry the previous tests.
> >
> >Arnaud
> >--
> >Linux / Unix Expert - MGE UPS SYSTEMS - R&D Dpt
> >Network UPS Tools (NUT) Project Leader - http://www.networkupstools.org/
> >Debian Developer - http://people.debian.org/~aquette/
> >OpenSource Developer - http://arnaud.quette.free.fr/
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