Hi everyone:

While the state legislation proposed to stop these kind of shooting events is 
important, laudable and should be strongly supported by the NY conservation 
community, it if was to be signed into law by Governor Cuomoto tomorrow, 
individual hunters could still go out each and every day for seven months (Sept 
1-March 31 as the chart detaling the NYSDEC regs. provided by Lynne Hertzog 
illustrates)  and shoot as many crows as they desire. 

Thus, if we want to provide crows with complete protection we need to have 
state legislation introduced to have American and Fish Crows classified as 
songbirds and to close the hunting season for them or some other alternate 
approach...... 

John Turner 


----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Federman 
Date: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:49 am
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)
To: "Voisine, Matthew NAN02" , Will Raup , Stella Miller , NYSBIRDS-L 
Cc: "Voisine, Matthew NAN02" 

> Thanks, Matthew,
> It's moot at this point since the Press Release was changed, but 
> the shoot 
> is just outside the NYC watershed.
> 
> Larry Federman
> President, Northern Catskills Audubon
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Voisine, Matthew NAN02
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:18 PM
> To: Will Raup ; Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L
> Cc: Voisine, Matthew NAN02
> Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED)
> 
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
> 
> I picked up on that also but wasn't going to say anything. 
> However it is a 
> huge "typo".
> 
> However, if the hunt is happening on lands that are owned by 
> NYC, i.e. the 
> reservoirs? The statement is appropriate.
> 
> 
> Matthew Voisine
> Biologist
> USACE- NY District
> 26 Federal Plaza
> Room 2151
> NY, NY 10278
> 917.790.8718 voice
> 702.271.0496 mobile
> 212.264.0961 fax
> matthew.vois...@usace.army.mil
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bounce-113422972-8614...@list.cornell.edu 
> [mailto:bounce-113422972-8614...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of 
> Will Raup
> Sent: Thursday, 20 March, 2014 14:11
> To: Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release
> 
> Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", 
> means it will 
> be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York 
> State DEC, 
> otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will 
> just view 
> this as another "City" politician who has no idea what is going 
> on north of 
> New York City.
> 
> The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after 
> that 
> particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use 
> that to their 
> advantage.
> 
> Will Raup
> Albany, NY
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700
> From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release
> To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu
> 
> 
> Attached is the press release regarding the legislation.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Stella
> 
> 
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