Sometimes I wonder if birders know what black birds they are looking at: remember the Boat-tailed Grackle versus Rusty Blackbird discussion of a few weeks ago. [?]
Hugh On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Voisine, Matthew NAN02 < matthew.vois...@usace.army.mil> wrote: > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > Caveats: NONE > > I think this subject is getting out of control but my experience is > hunters know EXACTLY what the species is that they are hunting. The > conversation is beginning to criticize hunters unduly. > > Whether they know about something that they are not hunting is another > story and not really relevant > > Matthew Voisine > Biologist > USACE- NY District > 26 Federal Plaza > Room 2151 > NY, NY 10278 > 917.790.8718 voice > 702.271.0496 mobile > 212.264.0961 fax > matthew.vois...@usace.army.mil > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Wilson [mailto:wil...@stny.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, 21 March, 2014 11:32 > To: <redk...@optonline.net> > Cc: Larry Federman; Voisine, Matthew NAN02; Will Raup; Stella Miller; > NYSBIRDS-L > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) > > I'm curious how many hunters actually know the difference between a crow > (fish of American) and starling, red-winged BB, Rusty BB, and Grackles. I'd > be surprised if even 25% of the hunters even try yo differentiate these > "black" birds. > > > Glenn Wilson > Endicott, NY > www.WilsonsWarbler.com > > On Mar 21, 2014, at 11:09 AM, <redk...@optonline.net> wrote: > > > Hi everyone: > > While the state legislation proposed to stop these kind of shooting events > is important, laudable and should be strongly supported by the NY > conservation community, it if was to be signed into law by Governor Cuomoto > tomorrow, individual hunters could still go out each and every day for > seven months (Sept 1-March 31 as the chart detaling the NYSDEC regs. > provided by Lynne Hertzog illustrates) and shoot as many crows as they > desire. > > Thus, if we want to provide crows with complete protection we need to have > state legislation introduced to have American and Fish Crows classified as > songbirds and to close the hunting season for them or some other alternate > approach...... > > John Turner > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry Federman > Date: Friday, March 21, 2014 9:49 am > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) > To: "Voisine, Matthew NAN02" , Will Raup , Stella Miller , NYSBIRDS-L > Cc: "Voisine, Matthew NAN02" > > > Thanks, Matthew, > > It's moot at this point since the Press Release was changed, but > > the shoot > > is just outside the NYC watershed. > > > > Larry Federman > > President, Northern Catskills Audubon > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Voisine, Matthew NAN02 > > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:18 PM > > To: Will Raup ; Stella Miller ; NYSBIRDS-L > > Cc: Voisine, Matthew NAN02 > > Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release (UNCLASSIFIED) > > > > Classification: UNCLASSIFIED > > Caveats: NONE > > > > I picked up on that also but wasn't going to say anything. > > However it is a > > huge "typo". > > > > However, if the hunt is happening on lands that are owned by > > NYC, i.e. the > > reservoirs? The statement is appropriate. > > > > > > Matthew Voisine > > Biologist > > USACE- NY District > > 26 Federal Plaza > > Room 2151 > > NY, NY 10278 > > 917.790.8718 voice > > 702.271.0496 mobile > > 212.264.0961 fax > > matthew.vois...@usace.army.mil > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bounce-113422972-8614...@list.cornell.edu > > [mailto:bounce-113422972-8614...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of > > Will Raup > > Sent: Thursday, 20 March, 2014 14:11 > > To: Stella Miller; NYSBIRDS-L > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > > > Sadly the fact the Senator used the term "New York City DEC", > > means it will > > be ignored. It should be edited immediately to say New York > > State DEC, > > otherwise this will be dismissed by upstate residents who will > > just view > > this as another "City" politician who has no idea what is going > > on north of > > New York City. > > > > The statement may seem minor, but many will stop reading after > > that > > particular sentence. And you can bet the opposition will use > > that to their > > advantage. > > > > Will Raup > > Albany, NY > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 07:11:02 -0700 > > From: stella.mille...@yahoo.com > > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Press release > > To: NYSBirds-L@cornell.edu > > > > > > Attached is the press release regarding the legislation. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Stella > > > > > > > > > > "Conservation is sometimes perceived as stopping everything > > cold, as holding > > whooping cranes in higher esteem than people. It is up to > > science to spread > > the understanding that the choice is not between wild places or > > people, it > > is between a rich or an impoverished existence for Man." 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