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-----Original Message-----
From: "ichingprediction" <wimanto...@yahoo.com>

Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:22:15 
To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ob] Re: Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <jsx-consult...@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <highwaystar91@> wrote:
> >
> > Kalo koreksi datang tiba2, nah BD kena gebuk siapa Mbah? hehe Kecuali
> 
> BD bisa kena gebuk:
> - Bom
> - Central bank policy
> - Perang, gempa, kerusuhan
> - Emiten kena default, kena tipu 
> - Dll perubahan UNANTICIPATED fundamental changes.
> 
> Jadi IHSG naik atau turun bukan hanya karena Capital Flow
> saja, banyak faktor yg mempengaruhi pergerakan harga.
> 
> Pada saat phase Markup atau Markdown, Capital flow relatif
> tidak bergerak banyak. Jadi index bergerak sesuai TAKTIK pada 
> hari tsb:
> - SBY menang, index digebug
> - Ada bom, index ditahan
> 
> Jadi pergerakan index akhir akhir ini lebih dipengaruhi faktor
> BD sambil menunggu keluarnya lap H1 dengan deadline tgl 31 July.
> 
> Bagaimana scenario sampai tgl 31 July ?:
> 
> - Scenario 1:
> Angkat market sampe tgl 31 July, lalu gebug sesudahnya.
> 
> - Scenario 2:
> Turunin market sampe tgl 31 July, lalu
> a. Gebug sesudahnya jika hasil H1 jeLek
> b. Angkat sesudahnya jika hasil H1 lebih bagus dari perkiraan.
> 
> Yg mana yg akan dijalankan ?
> 
> 
> > tingkatan bandar pun macam2...ada super bandar kali ya alias super 
> > Bozz.Tentu
> > warning capital outflow dari Mbah akan sangat membantu. Sampai Jum'at
> > kemarin, asing sih masih net buy sptnya (ada yg bilang juga Jum'at
> > sore)...thanks!
> > 
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:16 PM, jsx_consultant <
> > jsx-consultant@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > EL have donate A LOT of knowledge to us. her contribution to
> > > OB is PRICELESS...
> > >
> > > Last El's prediction and analysis about BIG correction in the near
> > > future is A VERY BIG donation if it comes TRUE.
> > >
> > > Secara bandarmologi, jika koreksi ini datang TIBA TIBA, maka
> > > BD pun akan kena JITAK, tapi jika koreksinya datang bertahap, maka
> > > Reksadana yg akan kena jitak.
> > >
> > > Embah memberikan PERHATIAN PENUH atas warning EL ini, dan jika
> > > terjadi Related Capital Outflow, embah akan kasih warning, tapi
> > > jika BD pun kena gebug, maka SEMUA AKAN merana.
> > >
> > > Note:
> > > - Kalo EL kasih alamat, embah mau kirim DONAT aja ama EL.
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "[ M S ]" <mimpi.saham@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have donated to mbah and I wish to donate more in the near future. EL,
> > > u are making so much profit, have u donate to mbah?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: "[ M S ]" <mimpi.saham@>
> > > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:57:49
> > > > To: Milis 
> > > > OB<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have no reason to whine or complain to anybody coz when I started
> > > investing in equity market back in Nov 08, I only invested a very small
> > > portion of what I have and was ready to loose it ALL as a fee for 
> > > learning.
> > > >
> > > > I'm here to learn so by the time I can hand over my business to
> > > professionals or my kids, I will be prepared and hopefully be a smart
> > > investor and trader.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I started with ZERO knowledge, I don't even know what BUMI stands
> > > for at that time. And yes I had no trading plan, I buy and sell stocks 
> > > base
> > > on rumors in OB. Because it's Bullish I gain more than 100% till Mei 09.
> > > >
> > > > Selama Nov 08 - Mei 09 saya NGAK banyak belajar karena merasa trading
> > > gampang. Setelah cuci gudang Mei 09 dan fully cash about a month, mulai
> > > tergoda lagi dengan rumors OB dan kemudian belanja lagi dan Nyangkut 
> > > sampai
> > > sekarang.
> > > >
> > > > Nyangkut ternyata memacu saya untuk belajar. So basically I started
> > > learning only about a month ago. That's why I consider myself as newbie, 
> > > but
> > > it won't be forever.
> > > >
> > > > Learning to be a Nyakuter is part of the game and I'm glad that happen 
> > > > to
> > > me coz it motivates me to learn.
> > > >
> > > > I'll take advantage both bull or bear, if bull I'll gain if bear I'll
> > > learn.
> > > >
> > > > You give a top priorty to your portfolio, you are an excellent FM, could
> > > u please share what's the minimum fund that you are willing to handle?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Elaine Sui <elainesui83@>
> > > >
> > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:44:17
> > > > To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>>
> > > > Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *It's common problem. Most ppl like to put him/herself as a victim of
> > > > bandars, seniors, bozz, whatever. (Refer to my post about the 
> > > > 'Psychology
> > > of
> > > > blame') Why do you consider yourself as a newbie (forever?). Why are you
> > > > following me or Mbah? Anyway, like I said before I can and have to 
> > > > change
> > > my
> > > > strategy when fundamentals change.
> > > >
> > > > Protecting my portfolios is my top priority, it's even more important
> > > than
> > > > making profit. It is my job, especially when I sense danger, but again:
> > > nobody
> > > > is obligated to follow me. If you choose to follow me then don't 
> > > > complain
> > > > for God sake. I hate whiners. [?][?][?]
> > > >
> > > > Elaine**
> > > > *
> > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:58 PM, [ M S ] <mimpi.saham@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yup, it always amazes me how easy our seniors change his or her mind.
> > > Is it
> > > > > coz by OVER analizing or it's really what he or she believe in?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sure our seniors intended to give us an early warning, but
> > > seriously
> > > > > for newbie it has a significant impact.
> > > > >
> > > > > I still rembember when IHSG around 1300, Prof JT said that he is going
> > > to
> > > > > invest when IHSG break 1600...did he??
> > > > >
> > > > > EL said BUY BUY BUY and invest till 2011 or 2012. BNBR 5 folds meaning
> > > 400
> > > > > by the end of this year. Bimantara groups 10 folds then suddenly She
> > > changed
> > > > > her mind without giving further clue for those stocks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Semua yang saya sampaikan di atas semata² untuk kilas balik tanpa
> > > bermaksud
> > > > > menyalahkan siapapun. Saya sudah belajar dari pengalaman tersebut dan
> > > akan
> > > > > berusaha mempunyai trading plan sendiri dan menggunakan OB sebagai
> > > sarana
> > > > > untuk second or third opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > > Terima kasih kepada suhu² yang sudah berani menyatakan pendapatnya
> > > terlepas
> > > > > dari salah benarnya.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mohon maaf jika ada yang kurang berkenan.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: "VF ™" vnnfortunatus@
> > > > >
salah satu sebab ane pilih iching buat prediksi saham krn terlalu banyak 
faktor2 yg pengaruhi index. Dg iching asal instiusi jalan dan sedikit teknis, 
semua bisa ditebak dg akurat


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