Oh maksudnya gitu, kirain lagi cerita perperangan antara bandar2 tertentu...kalo yg Mbah maksud adalah hal2 tsb memang betul, itu diluar kontrol bandar. Thank you Mbah!
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant" <jsx-consult...@...> wrote: > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <highwaystar91@> wrote: > > > > Kalo koreksi datang tiba2, nah BD kena gebuk siapa Mbah? hehe Kecuali > > BD bisa kena gebuk: > - Bom > - Central bank policy > - Perang, gempa, kerusuhan > - Emiten kena default, kena tipu > - Dll perubahan UNANTICIPATED fundamental changes. > > Jadi IHSG naik atau turun bukan hanya karena Capital Flow > saja, banyak faktor yg mempengaruhi pergerakan harga. > > Pada saat phase Markup atau Markdown, Capital flow relatif > tidak bergerak banyak. Jadi index bergerak sesuai TAKTIK pada > hari tsb: > - SBY menang, index digebug > - Ada bom, index ditahan > > Jadi pergerakan index akhir akhir ini lebih dipengaruhi faktor > BD sambil menunggu keluarnya lap H1 dengan deadline tgl 31 July. > > Bagaimana scenario sampai tgl 31 July ?: > > - Scenario 1: > Angkat market sampe tgl 31 July, lalu gebug sesudahnya. > > - Scenario 2: > Turunin market sampe tgl 31 July, lalu > a. Gebug sesudahnya jika hasil H1 jeLek > b. Angkat sesudahnya jika hasil H1 lebih bagus dari perkiraan. > > Yg mana yg akan dijalankan ? > > > > tingkatan bandar pun macam2...ada super bandar kali ya alias super > > Bozz.Tentu > > warning capital outflow dari Mbah akan sangat membantu. Sampai Jum'at > > kemarin, asing sih masih net buy sptnya (ada yg bilang juga Jum'at > > sore)...thanks! > > > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 6:16 PM, jsx_consultant < > > jsx-consultant@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > EL have donate A LOT of knowledge to us. her contribution to > > > OB is PRICELESS... > > > > > > Last El's prediction and analysis about BIG correction in the near > > > future is A VERY BIG donation if it comes TRUE. > > > > > > Secara bandarmologi, jika koreksi ini datang TIBA TIBA, maka > > > BD pun akan kena JITAK, tapi jika koreksinya datang bertahap, maka > > > Reksadana yg akan kena jitak. > > > > > > Embah memberikan PERHATIAN PENUH atas warning EL ini, dan jika > > > terjadi Related Capital Outflow, embah akan kasih warning, tapi > > > jika BD pun kena gebug, maka SEMUA AKAN merana. > > > > > > Note: > > > - Kalo EL kasih alamat, embah mau kirim DONAT aja ama EL. > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>, > > > "[ M S ]" <mimpi.saham@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have donated to mbah and I wish to donate more in the near future. EL, > > > u are making so much profit, have u donate to mbah? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "[ M S ]" <mimpi.saham@> > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:57:49 > > > > To: Milis > > > > OB<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no reason to whine or complain to anybody coz when I started > > > investing in equity market back in Nov 08, I only invested a very small > > > portion of what I have and was ready to loose it ALL as a fee for > > > learning. > > > > > > > > I'm here to learn so by the time I can hand over my business to > > > professionals or my kids, I will be prepared and hopefully be a smart > > > investor and trader. > > > > > > > > Yes, I started with ZERO knowledge, I don't even know what BUMI stands > > > for at that time. And yes I had no trading plan, I buy and sell stocks > > > base > > > on rumors in OB. Because it's Bullish I gain more than 100% till Mei 09. > > > > > > > > Selama Nov 08 - Mei 09 saya NGAK banyak belajar karena merasa trading > > > gampang. Setelah cuci gudang Mei 09 dan fully cash about a month, mulai > > > tergoda lagi dengan rumors OB dan kemudian belanja lagi dan Nyangkut > > > sampai > > > sekarang. > > > > > > > > Nyangkut ternyata memacu saya untuk belajar. So basically I started > > > learning only about a month ago. That's why I consider myself as newbie, > > > but > > > it won't be forever. > > > > > > > > Learning to be a Nyakuter is part of the game and I'm glad that happen > > > > to > > > me coz it motivates me to learn. > > > > > > > > I'll take advantage both bull or bear, if bull I'll gain if bear I'll > > > learn. > > > > > > > > You give a top priorty to your portfolio, you are an excellent FM, could > > > u please share what's the minimum fund that you are willing to handle? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Elaine Sui <elainesui83@> > > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:44:17 > > > > To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>> > > > > Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan... > > > > > > > > > > > > *It's common problem. Most ppl like to put him/herself as a victim of > > > > bandars, seniors, bozz, whatever. (Refer to my post about the > > > > 'Psychology > > > of > > > > blame') Why do you consider yourself as a newbie (forever?). Why are you > > > > following me or Mbah? Anyway, like I said before I can and have to > > > > change > > > my > > > > strategy when fundamentals change. > > > > > > > > Protecting my portfolios is my top priority, it's even more important > > > than > > > > making profit. It is my job, especially when I sense danger, but again: > > > nobody > > > > is obligated to follow me. If you choose to follow me then don't > > > > complain > > > > for God sake. I hate whiners. [?][?][?] > > > > > > > > Elaine** > > > > * > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:58 PM, [ M S ] <mimpi.saham@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yup, it always amazes me how easy our seniors change his or her mind. > > > Is it > > > > > coz by OVER analizing or it's really what he or she believe in? > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure our seniors intended to give us an early warning, but > > > seriously > > > > > for newbie it has a significant impact. > > > > > > > > > > I still rembember when IHSG around 1300, Prof JT said that he is going > > > to > > > > > invest when IHSG break 1600...did he?? > > > > > > > > > > EL said BUY BUY BUY and invest till 2011 or 2012. BNBR 5 folds meaning > > > 400 > > > > > by the end of this year. Bimantara groups 10 folds then suddenly She > > > changed > > > > > her mind without giving further clue for those stocks. > > > > > > > > > > Semua yang saya sampaikan di atas semata² untuk kilas balik tanpa > > > bermaksud > > > > > menyalahkan siapapun. Saya sudah belajar dari pengalaman tersebut dan > > > akan > > > > > berusaha mempunyai trading plan sendiri dan menggunakan OB sebagai > > > sarana > > > > > untuk second or third opinion. > > > > > > > > > > Terima kasih kepada suhu² yang sudah berani menyatakan pendapatnya > > > terlepas > > > > > dari salah benarnya. > > > > > > > > > > Mohon maaf jika ada yang kurang berkenan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: "VF " vnnfortunatus@ > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:39:24 > > > > > To: Obrolan > > > > > bandar<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hahaaa... Pertanyaan bagus neh.. Kapan bs investnya ya... > > > > > Hihihhiii.... > > > > > - VF - > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: "[ M S ]" <mimpi.saham@> > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:54:12 > > > > > To: Milis > > > > > OB<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ob] Rasanya selalu di persimpangan... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heavy Nyangkut Zonenya mbah udah lewat tapi koq terhalang dengan Upper > > > PIG > > > > > Line dan DJI, seperti postingan mbah sbb: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsgzz.png > > > > > > > > > > http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwldjiazz.png > > > > > > > > > > Jadi kapan bisa invest kalau selalu ngak ada kejelasan Bull or Bear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry® > > > > > powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > + + > > > > > + + + + + > > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus > > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. > > > > > + + + + + > > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > + + > > > > > + + + + + > > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus > > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. > > > > > + + + + + > > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > + + > > > > > + + + + + > > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus > > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. > > > > > + + + + + > > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
