Happen to me with the same man a couple of months ago. Woodstock Improvement District guards came to pick him up - I did not want to make a case then..... Maybe someone must do it now!
From: Rosemary Robins <mandrcr...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <obsnw@googlegroups.com> Date: Wednesday 25 February 2015 3:22 PM To: <obsnw@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [obsnw] Re: informal car guards Us rate payers just can't win............ On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Frank Schuitemaker <fschuitema...@gmail.com> wrote: > Jonathan E Cahill <https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.e.cahill?fref=nf> > > on Woodstock SAPS Facebook > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodstock-SAPS/1542375869354802?fref=nf> > 14 February at 13:45 > <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153105901747433&set=o.1542375869354 > 802&type=1> · > Parked in Lwr Main a few minutes ago and was approached rudely by this man > demanding R20 for parking. When pointing out that it is a public road he again > rudely said that's not the point it's about security. He stated that he was > authorised to charge for parkin. We requested on whose authority and to see > papers and then he said R10 for parking. After refusing he was quite > aggressive in his attitude and of course did not appreciate having his photo > taken. We opted to not park here for fear that he would damage our car. Please > provide clarity on parking in a public street? > > > <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153105901747433&set=o.1542375869354 > 802&type=1> > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodstock-SAPS/1542375869354802?sk=timeline#> > <https://www.facebook.com/ajax/sharer/?s=2&appid=2305272732&id=101531059017474 > 33&p%5B0%5D=581992432&p%5B1%5D=1073742206&share_source_type=unknown> > Hilton Malila <https://www.facebook.com/hilton.malila?fref=ufi> Forcing money > from people or demanding money is illegal and can easily be connected to > extortion , but if car guard approached u in a violent manner report it to any > law enforcement office or report it to d police station,bcs they are breaking > a municipal by law nd can get a fine up to R1000, we time nd again pick them > up nd issue them with fines nd we build profiles on them for record purposes > if they are involve in crime. > Like > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodstock-SAPS/1542375869354802?sk=timeline#> > · Reply > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Woodstock-SAPS/1542375869354802?sk=timeline#> > · 15 February at 15:17 > <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153105901747433&set=o.1542375869354 > 802&type=1&comment_id=10153108677572433&offset=0&total_comments=2> > > > On 26 January 2015 at 22:52, Frank Schuitemaker <fschuitema...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Hi Brian, >> >>> > I have asked Orbis to report all such incidents to SAPS and to record the >>> response, which I am advised is often non-existent. >>> > It would be helpful if we had an Obs sub-sector CPF where these issues >>> could be raised. >> Tonight around 21:30 I reported to control room the following car guards: >> 1. 2x around Obsid Office (Station Road, Arnold, James Street) >> 2. 1x LMR between Station and Trill Road >> 3. 1x Trill Road corner Nuttall plus various "drunk" vagrants holding out >> there hands. >> 4. 2x LMR between Trill and Bowden Road >> 5. 1x Oxford Road near Bowden Road. >> Yes we absolutely need to get the Obs Community Sub-Forum going again - I'm >> reTIRED but Observatory needs to keep pushing things - No Pain, No Gains. >> >> Please let us have a feed-back of what Saps did or didn't do, besides Law >> Enforcement I requested it will be reported to as well. >> >> >> On 26 January 2015 at 17:51, Roger Saner <ro...@burningdog.co.za> wrote: >>> On the other hand, treating all car guards as de facto criminals is not >>> right. I know one car guard who was instrumental in helping out in various >>> difficult situations - without payment - and yet was treated as a suspect by >>> community and police during those times. >>> >>> While car guards are often a little too boisterous for my personal liking, >>> and I'm sure occasionally participate in crime, I'm happy to have one on my >>> street and feel safer for him being there. He is foreign, earns very little, >>> and has got into trouble because he hasn't bribed police when they expected >>> it. >>> >>> I want less of a "solution to the car guard problem" and more of a "what are >>> some creative ways the Obs community can partner with car guards?" keeping >>> some of the concerns raised in mind. >>> >>> Regards >>> Roger >>> >>> On 26 January 2015 at 13:36, Brian Amery Coo <c...@obsid.org.za> wrote: >>>> This is just in from Orbis >>>> >>>> Dear Brian >>>> >>>> Our staff can only ask the car guards to move out of the area. If these car >>>> guards refuse to move, we are not allowed to remove them with force. Our >>>> staff will then forward a complaint to the local SAPS. Any public member or >>>> security member who is not an peace officer cannot arrest or move an >>>> illegal car guard against his/her will. >>>> >>>> Our staff then monitor the area and wait on back up from SAPS.When SAPS >>>> arrive on the scene, they normally only warn the car guards. >>>> >>>> It is the responsibility of the SAPS to effect an arrest . >>>> >>>> Kind Regards >>>> Charl Brooks >>>> >>>> I have asked Orbis to report all such incidents to SAPS and to record the >>>> response, which I am advised is often non-existent. >>>> It would be helpful if we had an Obs sub-sector CPF where these issues >>>> could be raised. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Brian Amery Coo <c...@obsid.org.za> wrote: >>>>> We have requested the current policy and by laws from Orbis. 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