Hi Adam, Thanks for the feedback.
I agree the SIG shouldn't bring about any duplication of the processes that the OO currently does. A SIG as defined in the guidelines <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U3R3wSHR9jo9VgywmAQqKswrylwjxw9-/edit> should be "enabling OSGeo Oceania members to interact, share knowledge, organise events, and collaborate on a selected, targeted topic within the scope of OSGeo Oceania". So a SIG should be complementary to the OO function and allow the interested community members to drive engagement in that area without the OO board having to do it all. Like you say though, open communication between the SIG and the OO board is key in making sure there is no overlap being introduced. Also to be clear the SIG isn’t seeking “sponsorship” as such but we do want to be able to collect a membership fee for people/orgs wanting to be involved, allowing them to fund items that maybe other OO members don’t see as important. I don’t see this taking away from conference sponsorship and this idea will ultimately sink or swim depending on whether the SIG members have an appetite to fund the items in our scope. As for the conflict of interest, to be honest I don't know the answer in regards to how that should be dealt with. I think we need to add something in the charter, would removing those people from the proposal and voting process be enough? How does OO deal with this? I don’t want to rule local devs out of working on this because they belong to the group, but we also don’t want to become the entry point to company XYZ. Thanks for the feedback. Andrew On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:35 AM Adam Steer <adam.d.st...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Andrew and all the QGIS SIG proposers > > Thanks, I think this is a perfect use of OSGeo Oceania as a backing > organisation :) > > My only reservation with any SIG proposal is that effort isn't > duplicated about events and marketing, and also that a funding from a > small pool of interested parties (relative to other parts of the > world) is able to be effectively spread among the whole community. For > an example it would be a bit awry to see a SIG gather a heap of > funding at the expense of conference sponsorships. I guess in that > case the SIG could also sponsor conferences? This goes the other way > too - the existence of a well connected SIG makes it easier for OO to > fund a QGIS feature (for example) if it decides to do so. > > I think clear, constant and open communication between OO and the SIG > will make those concerns go away. > > In writing this I did work my thoughts through to a serious question: > How will the SIG deal with conflicts of interest? A stated aim of the > SIG is to fund development, what will the SIG do if all the key QGIS > developers in the region are also in the group of people making > decisions about buying developer time? > > My only comment on the charter itself is that if you want, you can > link to the existing Berlin Code of Conduct: > https://berlincodeofconduct.org/ - with which the upcoming OO CoC > should be 100% compatible. > > Cheers, > > Adam > > > On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 04:37, Andrew Jeffrey <aljeffre...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > The OSGeo Oceania board has approved an initiative for members to form > Special Interest Groups (SIGs) within the OO community. > > > > A SIG is a way for community members to collaborate around common > interests which in this case is QGIS. > > > > In establishing a SIG, the OO board requires that the group proposing > the SIG put forward a charter which outlines the Aim and Scope under which > the SIG will operate. > > > > Myself, Emma Hain, John Bryant, Nathan Woodrow and Nyall Dawson would > like to start a QGIS SIG which can be used to benefit QGIS users in our > community. To get things started we have come up with a charter that we > would like to make available for community consultation. As this charter > currently reflects our input we would like to put this out for discussion > to see if what we are proposing is on the right path for the community. At > the moment everyone with the link below has "comment" permissions, but > "edit" permissions can be granted on request if you would like to get more > involved and you're welcome to do so. > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lrewntrC0N1r6mfZdo1AdPhe2qTEaN5hDA2pcL0mrvI/edit?usp=sharing > > > > I also just want to be upfront that this SIG is proposing that there be > a membership fee associated with the group. The funds raised by the > membership will be stored with the OO org and then used by the SIG on items > as scoped out in the charter. The idea with the membership is not to "make > money" but to pool our small contributions to give us better "buying power" > for lack of a better term. As a SIG within the OO org we can participate in > crowdfunding campaigns, engage a dev to develop a feature important to us > but might not be recognised as important to the larger QGIS project, or > engage a trainer to provide professional development via Zoom, the types of > things that are hard to do as individuals or as a user group with no funds > etc. The membership arrangement also allows us to offer membership to > organisations which will become a way for them to support QGIS and their > local QGIS community. Ideally, this is where a majority of the funds would > come from as we don't want an individual to be excluded due to a "fee", > which is also covered in the charter. I'm available as I'm sure the other > proposers are to discuss the intention of this further and in the open on > this list. > > > > Any questions feel free to ask or if you prefer to comment on the > charter that is fine too. > > > > I look forward to discussing this with you. > > > > Thanks > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "QGIS Australia User Group" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to australian-qgis-user-group+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/australian-qgis-user-group/CADTxF6bV6OicKcLveZsexfQ_gLULoFTpATV3iyjxWBswRyM_iA%40mail.gmail.com > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "QGIS Australia User Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to australian-qgis-user-group+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/australian-qgis-user-group/CAFORoyh3xiAcvRrAWbNK%3DrH%2B0-DUhq1GZnVp08t8HX90R9tdKA%40mail.gmail.com > . >
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