Andrew, thanks a lot for continuing to push this forward. It has been a couple of months since I last looked at this, and I haven't really had a detailed look at the SIG concept yet.
I'm 'out of the office' for the next few days, but would be happy to join in this discussion when I get back, and have a proper chance to refresh my memory and get up to speed on SIGs. One brief thought, it feels like it would be good to consider a free (or very inexpensive) tier of membership. I suspect many of us can't justify (or can't afford) to spend much, but could contribute in other ways. Cheers John On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 9:46 am Andrew Jeffrey, <aljeffre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Adam, > > Thanks for the feedback. > > I agree the SIG shouldn't bring about any duplication of the processes > that the OO currently does. A SIG as defined in the guidelines > <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U3R3wSHR9jo9VgywmAQqKswrylwjxw9-/edit> > should be "enabling OSGeo Oceania members to interact, share knowledge, > organise events, and collaborate on a selected, targeted topic within the > scope of OSGeo Oceania". So a SIG should be complementary to the OO > function and allow the interested community members to drive engagement in > that area without the OO board having to do it all. Like you say though, > open communication between the SIG and the OO board is key in making sure > there is no overlap being introduced. Also to be clear the SIG isn’t > seeking “sponsorship” as such but we do want to be able to collect a > membership fee for people/orgs wanting to be involved, allowing them to > fund items that maybe other OO members don’t see as important. I don’t see > this taking away from conference sponsorship and this idea will ultimately > sink or swim depending on whether the SIG members have an appetite to fund > the items in our scope. > > As for the conflict of interest, to be honest I don't know the answer in > regards to how that should be dealt with. I think we need to add something > in the charter, would removing those people from the proposal and voting > process be enough? How does OO deal with this? I don’t want to rule local > devs out of working on this because they belong to the group, but we also > don’t want to become the entry point to company XYZ. > > Thanks for the feedback. > > Andrew > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:35 AM Adam Steer <adam.d.st...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Andrew and all the QGIS SIG proposers >> >> Thanks, I think this is a perfect use of OSGeo Oceania as a backing >> organisation :) >> >> My only reservation with any SIG proposal is that effort isn't >> duplicated about events and marketing, and also that a funding from a >> small pool of interested parties (relative to other parts of the >> world) is able to be effectively spread among the whole community. For >> an example it would be a bit awry to see a SIG gather a heap of >> funding at the expense of conference sponsorships. I guess in that >> case the SIG could also sponsor conferences? This goes the other way >> too - the existence of a well connected SIG makes it easier for OO to >> fund a QGIS feature (for example) if it decides to do so. >> >> I think clear, constant and open communication between OO and the SIG >> will make those concerns go away. >> >> In writing this I did work my thoughts through to a serious question: >> How will the SIG deal with conflicts of interest? A stated aim of the >> SIG is to fund development, what will the SIG do if all the key QGIS >> developers in the region are also in the group of people making >> decisions about buying developer time? >> >> My only comment on the charter itself is that if you want, you can >> link to the existing Berlin Code of Conduct: >> https://berlincodeofconduct.org/ - with which the upcoming OO CoC >> should be 100% compatible. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Adam >> >> >> On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 04:37, Andrew Jeffrey <aljeffre...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi All, >> > >> > The OSGeo Oceania board has approved an initiative for members to form >> Special Interest Groups (SIGs) within the OO community. >> > >> > A SIG is a way for community members to collaborate around common >> interests which in this case is QGIS. >> > >> > In establishing a SIG, the OO board requires that the group proposing >> the SIG put forward a charter which outlines the Aim and Scope under which >> the SIG will operate. >> > >> > Myself, Emma Hain, John Bryant, Nathan Woodrow and Nyall Dawson would >> like to start a QGIS SIG which can be used to benefit QGIS users in our >> community. To get things started we have come up with a charter that we >> would like to make available for community consultation. As this charter >> currently reflects our input we would like to put this out for discussion >> to see if what we are proposing is on the right path for the community. At >> the moment everyone with the link below has "comment" permissions, but >> "edit" permissions can be granted on request if you would like to get more >> involved and you're welcome to do so. >> > >> > >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lrewntrC0N1r6mfZdo1AdPhe2qTEaN5hDA2pcL0mrvI/edit?usp=sharing >> > >> > I also just want to be upfront that this SIG is proposing that there be >> a membership fee associated with the group. The funds raised by the >> membership will be stored with the OO org and then used by the SIG on items >> as scoped out in the charter. The idea with the membership is not to "make >> money" but to pool our small contributions to give us better "buying power" >> for lack of a better term. As a SIG within the OO org we can participate in >> crowdfunding campaigns, engage a dev to develop a feature important to us >> but might not be recognised as important to the larger QGIS project, or >> engage a trainer to provide professional development via Zoom, the types of >> things that are hard to do as individuals or as a user group with no funds >> etc. The membership arrangement also allows us to offer membership to >> organisations which will become a way for them to support QGIS and their >> local QGIS community. Ideally, this is where a majority of the funds would >> come from as we don't want an individual to be excluded due to a "fee", >> which is also covered in the charter. I'm available as I'm sure the other >> proposers are to discuss the intention of this further and in the open on >> this list. >> > >> > Any questions feel free to ask or if you prefer to comment on the >> charter that is fine too. >> > >> > I look forward to discussing this with you. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Andrew >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "QGIS Australia User Group" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to australian-qgis-user-group+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/australian-qgis-user-group/CADTxF6bV6OicKcLveZsexfQ_gLULoFTpATV3iyjxWBswRyM_iA%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "QGIS Australia User Group" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to australian-qgis-user-group+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/australian-qgis-user-group/CAFORoyh3xiAcvRrAWbNK%3DrH%2B0-DUhq1GZnVp08t8HX90R9tdKA%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "QGIS Australia User Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to australian-qgis-user-group+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/australian-qgis-user-group/CADTxF6ZUvSgCSuzn-ikrGNAKBmaQ5Mc84uCTbOeLSLqRtjfzew%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/australian-qgis-user-group/CADTxF6ZUvSgCSuzn-ikrGNAKBmaQ5Mc84uCTbOeLSLqRtjfzew%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . >
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