Ben Rockwood wrote: > Garrett D'Amore wrote: > >> Such a position would severely constrain the OGB's interactions with >> other bodies, and may ultimately destroy its ability to act effectively. >> >> Sometimes discussions with 3rd parties *have* to be private, and if >> you're not willing to have the discussions in private, then the other >> parties will just refuse to talk to you. Sometimes the 3rd party here >> will be Sun. Sometimes it might be other organizations, such as >> security organizations (CERT), or other vendors who are contemplating >> opening up to Solaris, but aren't yet ready to disclose those plans to >> the world-at-large. >> > > > > No.... 3rd parties do not have to be private. If they do, they can go > elsewhere. OPENsolaris. OPEN source. OPEN! We can't do things > otherwise, and if we do we are doomed to be a sham. CLOSEDsolaris is > dead, OPENsolaris is the future. > > This stabs at the heart of whats wrong with the relationship between Sun > and the community... we don't do closed, we don't do private. > > Good or bad. Right or wrong. For better or worse. OPEN. Thats what > transparency is, and thats what this board must be. > > This is a board, I am one voice among six others and I will abid by the > ruling of this body and seek compromise if I must, but it will be wrong > should it come to that. > >
I completely agree with Ben on this. Up until now I didn't even realize that there was a private list for the board. I still don't get why the board needs to communicate in private to 3rd parties. Using the examples from Garrett, if CERT or other vendors want to talk to someone about Solaris in private then it seems it would make more sense to talk to Sun in private. The board doesn't speak for Solaris anyway just the OpenSolaris community. Everything should be open in the community so they can see for themselves. But what is really disturbing is when the board "needs" to talk to Sun in private. Although I completely trust all of the members of the board and Sun in regards to doing the right thing this just doesn't look good for a community that is supposed to be all about openness. I can see where people could get the impression that the board is just a shill for Sun by using their imaginations of what goes on in those private conversations. Personally, the private list doesn't bother me but I am just concerned about keeping up the OGB's reputation. I'll reiterate, this is OPENsolaris, and OPEN is the key. Bill rushmores.net
