James Carlson wrote:
> Roy T. Fielding writes:
>> In accordance with Article VIII of the OpenSolaris Constitution,
>> public votes are required for release plans and release decisions
>> within any project governed by an OpenSolaris Community Group.
>> A release is defined as any packaged distribution intended for
>> people outside the originating community.
> 
> There's an important line here that I think is getting muddied.
> 
> Many projects release binaries intended for use outside of the project
> team or community without (in my opinion) running afoul of those
> rules.  Those binaries represent "alpha test" or "demos" or "proof of
> concept" or other such not-quite-release-quality efforts.  The
> Crossbow, Clearview, and xVM projects (to name a few obvious examples)
> have done this for some time without trouble.
> 
> The difficulty here is that we've got multiple people involved with
> and on the periphery of this rather important project who have
> different views of what the project is actually doing, and multiple
> conflicting actions taken.  I've talked privately with project team
> members who tell me that this is just a "preview" -- a demonstration
> -- and no more than that.  It appears to me that someone who thinks it
> amounts to something _other_ than a mere preview modified the
> www.opensolaris.org web page with a new logo and text outlining the
> entire community's future and offering these bits as something more
> akin to a release.
> 
> After looking through the materials, and this request for help, I find
> that I'm more sympathetic to the project team's intentions and believe
> that this request may prove to be a bit premature and the requested
> action both insufficient to solve the problem and excessively broad in
> its effects.
> 
> If the www.opensolaris.org page can be repaired, and the appropriate
> actions result from the OGB's draft request to Sun, then I'd be in
> favor of either taking no action on this request or (at most)
> delivering a formal reminder that releases, unlike demos, require
> community votes.

As I mentioned on website-discuss I'll make whatever changes are agreed 
upon by the various projects involved (Indiana, Advocacy) along with any 
(possible) OGB involvement. While I realize this is a controversial 
issue and understand that 'rolling things back' might damper some the 
frustration, I don't want to provide alternate designs until there is 
clear agreement from all invested parties on the proposed changes.

Derek
> 
> Let's try to get this right before reaching for stronger measures.
> 


-- 
Derek Cicero
Program Manager
Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division

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