On Nov 1, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Ian Murdock wrote:

> You have to be joking? I don't even know where to begin.. This is
> like Robert's Rules of Order run amok.. Is anyone here interested
> in building an operating system? -ian

Sun already has an operating system.  What it doesn't have is engaged
development from the wider community outside Sun.  That was, and is,
the entire reason for OpenSolaris.

You are coming to this party a bit late, with a whole bunch of
preconceived notions about turning OpenSolaris into a distribution
in the same way that you turned Linux into a distribution with
Debian.  That's a fine goal to have.  But the decision was already
made that OpenSolaris would not be governed by benevolent dictators,
so you either have to do the work necessary to overturn that
decision first or you have to find a way to work within an
open development community that makes decisions in a rather
democratic way, even if you are not personally fond of that model.

As one of the founders of the Apache Group, I can assure you that
the OpenSolaris Constitution's model of governance will work to
achieve open development if and only if it is applied as described
in Article VIII -- by making all decisions in public with open
discussion and voting when disagreement is apparent.  If not,
then you are wasting everyone else's time with unfulfilled
expectations of open development, and we would all get along
better with a constitution that reflects the reality of Sun's
choice of a benevolent dictator, even when the dictator changes
persona on a quarterly basis.

Many developers are happy to work for Sun.

....Roy

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