On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Karen Coyle <kco...@kcoyle.net> wrote:
> OK, I'll confess to being a professional librarian...
>
> It is common to include the series number, e.g. "v. 17" after the title:
>
>   The Story of civilization, v. VII
>
> In the standard library record (MARC21), the title of the series and
> the number of the series are in separate subfields in the series
> field. That's for the convenience of linking the series title with
> other records with the same series title without the number making
> them a non-match. At the same time, it's also nice to be able to
> search for a particular number in a series.
>
> Since the OL series field is a single string, I think that putting the
> series title followed by a comma and the series number should suffice.
> If it should be desired to link the entries in a series, the fields
> could be parsed into series title and number. Meanwhile, the OL series
> fields will look comfortably close to how most people would cite a
> series and would understand it.

I thought the whole point of having fields in a database record was to
avoid having to do string parsing, with all its problems, to recover
your original data.

If multiple fields are going to be munged together into a single
string, what are the escaping rules for delimiters contained in the
original strings?  What are the parsing rules?

Tom

>
> kc
>
>
>
> Quoting Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbaile...@aol.com>:
>
>> Well, there are standards and there are common usages. Most of us know, for
>> example, what standard English is, but very few people actually talk that
>> way. Standards of library cataloging are a bit more obscure though. If we
>> have a professional librarian here I suppose we can get an answer to what
>> the standard is. As for common usage, though, the most common catalog
>> entries that I see place the number of the book in a series with the name of
>> the series. In fact, examples of it being done differently do not come to
>> mind right now. That is why I suspect that to be the standard, but I cannot
>> be sure. The authorities who make up the standards can make up some pretty
>> obscure ones sometimes. As for myself, I would place the number with the
>> series title until someone who has the credentials says otherwise.
>>
>>
>> _     _      _
>>
>> "Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks
>> differently." - Rosa Luxemburg
>>
>>
>> The Militant:
>>  http://www.themilitant.com
>> Pathfinder Press:
>>  http://www.pathfinderpress.com
>> Granma International:
>>   http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alan Millar" <amillar...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Open Library -- general discussion" <ol-discuss@archive.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 4:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ol-discuss] Series titles: include individual ID or not?
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Roger Loran Bailey
>>> <rogerbaile...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> I think I would add the series number. There doesn't seem to be much
>>>> point
>>>> in identifying a book as being in a series if there is no indication of
>>>> which one in the series it is.
>>>
>>> Yes, certainly, we want the number identifying which one in the series it
>>> is.
>>>
>>> To expand or clarify, then, I guess my specific question is whether
>>> that should go in the series name field, or in another field such as
>>> the subtitle.
>>>
>>> I know data gets conflated when translated between different
>>> databases, but I don't know what is considered the standard or proper
>>> way of describing the series collective and individual data (if there
>>> is such a thing).
>>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>>
>>> - Alan
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