Yes ;

Happy & Safe is good , you forgot _fast_ =8-) .

Speed in old trucks is a relative thing but taking the time to sort out the 
loose front end & spring shackles then fitting a good set of _radial_ LT tires 
, makes a world of difference .

I ran 16" 6 lug rims on my '49 with Dayton LT's and it stuck to the road like 
glue in spite of way too fast in the canyons . they also wore like iron in 
spite of heavy Commercial Service and lots of towing , the boob who bought then 
destroyed my old '49 prolly threw out the custom made 4" WWW tires I had on it .

I now have a '69 C/10 and it came to me with FUGLY American Racing steel spoked 
wheels from , oh , 1972 I'd guess ~ they still had the original blue & red 
painted pinstripes amd crappy 14" tires , it took me a while to find a set of 
original 15" steel wheels , sadly in 1969 you could get 15" or _16.5_" wheels & 
tires , I went down that horrible 16.5" road once , never again .

Happliy I met a nice young fellow who was building an ' Old School ' Truck , he 
was shickled titless to get those worthless wheels & tires.... I even gave him 
the original chrome lug nuts after I'd cleaned them up a bit .

I always buy my tires by the outer diameter & tread width and my Son insisted I 
try Falcon LT tires , they're very good indeed *but* the biggest O.D. they make 
is only 28.9" ~ this means my poor old truck cannot go 65 MPH without buzzing 
the crap out of it's tiny little 250 CID InLine 6 Banger......

At least they are proper 6 lug 15" factory wheels and are now white and have 
the correct painted " poverty " hub caps like a proper Ranch/Farm/Work Truck 
ought .

Hopefully the TH350C lock up torque converter tranny I bought , will raise the 
usable Highway speed .

You are correct , most Salesmen are not interested in Servicing the Customer , 
they just want to move the highest profit margin junk or clear out old stock or 
worse , sell you what _they_ think is " cool man ! " .

-Nate
     Jonas  wrote :
>
> I forgot to give Nate credit for the "Jonas' solution"!   (Thank you for 
> sharing this knowledge, not readily available elsewhere!  It's amazing how 
> little a lot of the thieves in the tire and wheel business actually now about 
> their productsÂ…)
> 
> I like my truck better without the hubcaps.  The truck is Galway green and 
> cream and I painted the wheels fire engine red.  
> 
> I have read of people who have drilled the 16" wheels and inserted the clips 
> without a problem, but I think they are a bit small and weenie for those 
> macho 16" wheels.  It has more of a factory-yard farm look to it now, which I 
> prefer.
> 
> This is all about driving on radials.  If you want to stay with 15" wheels, 
> there is probably a set of bias-ply waiting for you at Coker or somewhere, 
> for too much money (IMHO).    (Right?)  Then she becomes a trailer queen and 
> you should never drive her very fast or carry a load.
> 
> I don't ever drive my truck fast, but I do like to carry a load now and then. 
>  I took home a ton of tile the other day which I bought at a discount if I 
> could haul it away, which I could.
> 
> Happy.  That and safe is what counts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 2, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Nate"  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Look at Jonas' solution , he got back to the 16" wheels , maybe not having 
> > original hub cap attachment though .
> > 
> > I recently had to find a full set of 6 lug 15" wheels for my '60 C/10 , I 
> > kept hitting up various Pick-A-Part yards and found two or three on one 
> > older truck , I was surprised but pleased , they looked terrible with many 
> > old coats of peeling paint but where solid so I bead blasted & powder 
> > coated them , they look fine and work well plus hold the original hub caps 
> > fine .
> > 
> > I'm still waiting to see the pictures of them .
> > 
> > Good luck hunting ! .
> > 
> > -Nate
> > Dan wrote :
> > >
> > > Looking for an inexpensive way to get my 58 Apache back to spec tires and 
> > > wheels.
> > > Would be great to run across an old set of originals.. I've looked and no 
> > > luck yet.
> > > 
> > > Any aftermarket that are close? And I was thinking 15x8 but below someone 
> > > mentioned 7 or 7.5
> > > Whitewall tires would be nice too but I'm wanting this thing to drive 
> > > right, more than just looks.
> > > 
> > > Any help appreciated!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Jonas Thaler 
> > > To: old-chevy-truck@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:57 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [old-chevy-truck] Finally -- new wheels and real, manly, 
> > > TRUCK TIRES!
> > > 
> > > Nate, thanks for the vote of confidence!
> > > 
> > > You and a couple of others here inspired me to do my homework.  AFTER I 
> > > got B-S-'ed by the lying-sack-of-shirt guy at Just Tires, and threw $400 
> > > down the crapper, I started reading up on tires and wheels. 
> > > 
> > > It occurred to me, when I was hauling an entire kitchen of tile and sacks 
> > > of cement down from the Valley on tires that were meant for a Mercury 
> > > Marauder or a Lincoln Town Car,  that I was ACTUALLY USING IT AS A TRUCK 
> > > and might be endangering myself and others.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Nate wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Jonas ;
> > > > 
> > > > It sounds to me like you're going to be well pleased .
> > > > 
> > > > Few bother to sort out the correct wheels & tires , this means their 
> > > > truck looks cool but drives like crap , after a few years they dump it 
> > > > and get another project....
> > > > 
> > > > These old trucks are extremely nice drivers in spite of no power 
> > > > steering , this is no accident ! GM knew exactly what they were doing .
> > > > 
> > > > -Nate
> > > > Jonas wrote :
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I might have solved the wheel tire and ride-height problem on 
> > > > > my 59 3200. Or at least I have taken a step, maybe a gamble.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I found some very solid steel wheels from a 1990's Chevy van or 
> > > > > pickup. They are 16" and the wheel-industry part number appears to be 
> > > > > 1621. The wheels fit the truck perfectly. I can now stop driving on 
> > > > > those car tires (225/75R15) which were way too fat and too low and 
> > > > > not properly load rated. These wheels will sport LT215/85R16 tires, 
> > > > > which are thinner and taller and much closer to the original 7.0 or 
> > > > > 7.5x15 bias ply that the truck might have come with. And boy are the 
> > > > > wheels and tires heavier than the car tires that were on there. 
> > > > > (Could that cause a problem?)
> > > > > 
> > > > > The ride height is going to be 2 inches taller than it is now, and 
> > > > > within a half-inch of what it would be with the bias tires. And I 
> > > > > think will be happy! For now I have dispensed with hubcaps and have 
> > > > > painted the wheels Fire Engine Red. The truck is Galway Green and 
> > > > > Cream. So sue me! 
> > > > > haveTW none of this cost very much. At one point I was looking at 
> > > > > having custom wheels made. I got lost in all the metrics of setback, 
> > > > > etc. My 1621 wheels, BTW, have the same setback as the original 15" 
> > > > > wheels. They just stiick out a bit more on the outside.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I will post pictures next week when I pick the tires up from being 
> > > > > mounted and get some new lug nuts. The ones I have now are really 
> > > > > chewed up.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for listening. Any comments? Am I creating a monster?
> > > > > 
> > > > > jonas
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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