Bob, Your suggestion is goodness :) Perhaps the TSC should draft something to propose to the board to give them a good starting point?
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Bob Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com> wrote: > Phil, et al, > > I would like to echo Ed’s observation here regarding the > Charter. > > In Section 3.b (GB) and Section 4.a.iii (TSC), specific care > is taken to tightly limit the voting influence of any one Member > Company/Related Companies, for good reason, I would say. > > > > While I did not see it explicitly stated for subcommittees, > one would hope that same care is taken to ensure to ensure that no one > company or group of companies have undue voting influence over the > decisions made. It also should not matter how quickly one gets ones > participants “on the list/at the available seats at the table”. > > > > To my mind, there is a distinction between encouraging broad > participation (we all know of cases where we wish we had more participants) > and ensuring equity wrt to voting decisions. > > > > I believe the Governing Board should immediately consider > defining the voting representation parameters for all subcommittees, > putting in place limits of how many votes Company/Related Companies can > have, and consider whether any votes done needed to be cancelled and redone > under more equitable guidelines. > > > > One opinion…comments welcome, > > Bob > > > > Robert (Bob) Monkman > > Networking Software Strategy & Ecosystem Programs > > ARM > > 150 Rose Orchard Way > > San Jose, Ca 95134 > > M: +1.510.676.5490 <(510)%20676-5490> > > Skype: robert.monkman > > > > *From:* onap-tsc-boun...@lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-tsc-bounces@ > lists.onap.org] *On Behalf Of *Ed Warnicke > *Sent:* Friday, July 7, 2017 8:00 AM > *To:* Lingli Deng <denglin...@chinamobile.com> > *Cc:* onap-tsc <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> > *Subject:* Re: [onap-tsc] Irregularities in the Use Case Subcommittee > Chair Election > > > > Thinking for the last few days around these issues. I think we have a > flaw in our governance around subcommittees. If you look at the charter: > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Lingli Deng <denglin...@chinamobile.com> > wrote: > > Hi Phil and all, > > > > It is a pity that we did not have time to discuss this issue yesterday on > the TSC call. > > > > As for the typo in the call for nomination, I agree that this is minor and > have no impact to the election, as neither of the nominees are coming from > open labs subcommittee, and they are clearly stating their interest in > running for Usecase subcommittee. > > > > But regarding the inconsistent handling of new members of the Use Case > Subcommittee during the election time-frame, I find it not acceptable and > would like to ask Kenny to remove them in order to clear the result of the > election, and strongly suggest to consider publish these five extra voters > as a warning. > > > > Thanks, > > Lingli > > > > *From:* onap-tsc-boun...@lists.onap.org [mailto:onap-tsc-bounces@ > lists.onap.org] *On Behalf Of *Phil Robb > *Sent:* 2017年7月6日 5:44 > *To:* onap-tsc <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> > *Subject:* [onap-tsc] Irregularities in the Use Case Subcommittee Chair > Election > > > > Hello ONAP TSC: > > > > The Use Case Subcommittee Chairperson election has just recently > completed. However, there have been several irregularities/inconsistencies > in the implementation of this election that warrants your attention. In > particular: > > > > 1) Inconsistent handling of new members of the Use Case Subcommittee > during the election time-frame. > > There are no guidelines in the TSC Charter, nor in the call for > nominations/election for this vote, indicating if individuals can add > themselves to the Use Case Subcommittee during the Chairperson voting, and > be allowed to vote. > > a) 64 individuals were members of the Use Case Subcommittee when the > voting began. They were invited to vote. > > b) Currently (at the end of the voting period), there are 83 members of > the subcommittee, hence 19 people were added during the voting timeframe > > c) Of those new 19 members, 5 asked to be added to the vote, and only > those 5 were added. The other 14 new members were not invited to vote in > the election. Hence the addition of new members was done inconsistently > for this vote. > > > > 2) No guidelines on company participation within a sub-committee. > > While this subcommittees does not mandate, but rather advise the TSC on > use-case selection/definition for a given release, we can expect the > subcommittee to perform votes to get a clear resolve on what the advice to > the TSC should be. While we want participation to be as open as possible > in this subcommittee, we also want to ensure that the advice rendered is > representative of the ONAP community as a whole and is not biased toward > one, or a small group of participating organizations. Currently, the > membership breakdown of Use Case Subcommittee participants looks like this: > > amdocs.com 17 > > att.com 12 > > boco.com.cn 6 > > chinamobile.com 9 > > chinatelecom.cn 1 > > ericsson.com 1 > > gigaspaces.com 4 > > gmail.com 1 > > huawei.com 8 > > intel.com 1 > > juniper.net 1 > > nokia.com 3 > > orange.com 3 > > raisecom.com 2 > > vmware.com 4 > > zte.com.cn 10 > > As you can see, of the 16 companies participating, the top 5 companies > with the most participants (Amdocs, AT&T, China Mobile, Huawei and ZTE) > hold 66% of the vote. I believe the TSC may want to provide further > guidelines to ensure a more equal voting distribution across subcommittee > membership > > > > 3) Typo/Error made on initial invitation to self-nominate for the Use Case > Subcommittee Chairperson position. This issue is relatively small, but may > have caused some confusion for some potential candidates. The original > email (located here: https://lists.onap.org/mailman/private/onap- > usecasesub/2017-June/000012.html) calling for self-nominations stated > that "Any member of the Open Lab Subcommittee may run for this position". > Some members of the Use Case Subcommittee may have been confused by that > statement and chose not to self-nominate, and/or vote during this election. > > > > I would like to get feedback from the TSC during the meeting tomorrow to > see if members feel that refinement is needed in populating subcommittees > and/or holding votes/elections. Based on the outcome of that discussion, > and the other inconsistencies documented above, we may then want to provide > guidance to the Use Case Subcommittee in how to treat the outcome of this > specific election. > > > > Thanks in advance for your input on this matter. > > > > Best, > > > > Phil. > > -- > > Phil Robb > > Executive Director, OpenDaylight Project > > VP Operations - Networking & Orchestration, The Linux Foundation > > (O) 970-229-5949 <(970)%20229-5949> > > (M) 970-420-4292 <(970)%20420-4292> > > Skype: Phil.Robb > > > _______________________________________________ > ONAP-TSC mailing list > ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org > https://lists.onap.org/mailman/listinfo/onap-tsc > > > IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential and may also be privileged. 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