Is this intended as a blog post?  It reads like one. In particular I
don't see any proposals to discuss.

-Rob

On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:30 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <orc...@apache.org> wrote:

> We are just one month into being the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling.  It is 
> useful to interesting to take stock of all that is happening and where we are.
>
> The main activity that we are all holding our breath over is the 
> reconstitution of the code base under Apache.  There is also concern for the 
> documentation and web sites and how they fit under an Apache umbrella.
>
> Depending on their interests and specialties, not everyone here is 
> immediately able to contribute much.  We are in the process of organizing and 
> bringing over and IP-scrubbing the initial artifacts for the project that 
> will be the foundation for further work.  There is not much to get our teeth 
> into in terms of actual development until that is sorted out.  (E.g., we 
> don't have a bug tracker yet and the documentation, localization, and 
> user-facing folk, including marketing, are still wondering how our project 
> will accommodate them.)
>
> Meanwhile, there is also how we organize ourselves to operate as an Apache 
> project.
>
> - Dennis
>
>    1. BOOTSTRAPPING COMMITTERS AND THE PPMC
>    2. HOW LONG IS THE OPEN DOOR OPEN?
>    3. WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO BE A COMMITTER AS TIME GOES ON?
>    4. WHEN BEING MORE PRIVATE THAN PRIVATE IS IMPORTANT
>
>
> 1. BOOTSTRAPPING COMMITTERS AND THE PPMC
>
> The set of Initial Committers is a self-selected group who added their names 
> to the Initial Committers list on the original incubator proposal.  That's 
> how the podling is bootstrapped.  Likewise, ooo-dev participation is fully 
> self-selected, and it will stay that way.
>
> This means that we are a group of people who have not worked together as a 
> single Apache project community before, even though there are a variety of 
> mutual acquaintances and associations in the mix.
>
> Of the Initial Committers, a subset were eager to be on the project and have 
> arrived. That is the overwhelming source of the current 54 committers, 41 
> also being on the PPMC.
>
> 2. HOW LONG IS THE OPEN DOOR OPEN?
>
> There are still about two-dozen Initial Committers who have not yet 
> registered an iCLA. We don't know if they are arriving or not.  One issue is 
> when to close the door on initial committers who have taken no initiative to 
> be here, although reminders have been sent out.
>
> It is also the case that all initial committers are welcome to participate in 
> the PPMC but not all have taken action to do so.  At some point, the PPMC 
> will not grow automatically and that also needs to be resolved.
>
> 3. WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO BE A COMMITTER AS TIME GOES ON?
>
> We vote on other committers the same as any [P]PMC.  The addition of two 
> invited committers has already been reported.
>
> One thing that concerns the PPMC (who, for all but two members, walked 
> through an open door) is how and when do we move from consideration of 
> previous reputation and being known to some of us to a situation where 
> contribution on the podling is the determining factor.  We're working our way 
> through that.  The PPMC is also concerned that, although the addition of new 
> committers and new PPMC members is carried out in private, we be transparent 
> about how we are conducting ourselves and that we demonstrate that we are 
> even-handed about it.
>
> It is not clear what the ooo-dev community wants to see and what the 
> understood progression to the normal rules for invitation of committers 
> should be.
>
>
> 4. WHEN BEING MORE PRIVATE THAN PRIVATE IS IMPORTANT
>
> The PPMC is responsible for dealing, quietly and privately, with security 
> matters and their resolution.  The security@ team informs us that because we 
> have so many members who are unknown here and also to each other at this 
> point, a limited ooo-secur...@incubator.apache.org list is essential.  We 
> need to identify those few among us who have appropriate skills and 
> sensibilities around security matters and who can keep their work secret when 
> that is appropriate.
>
> For this, we want to know who has been on the security teams of 
> OpenOffice.org and who happen to be here also.  There will also be 
> cross-communication with other security teams that operate on the same code 
> base, or in some cases, that operate on the same document formats.
>
> We will be going ahead with the creation of the private ooo-security list for 
> that purpose.  What we are waiting for is identification of three moderators 
> who are distributed around the earth's time zones well enough to provide 
> moderation of incoming reports in something approximating 24/7 coverage.
>
> [end]
>

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