On Mar 17, 2012, at 9:07 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > Ariel, Rob... > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile > <arie...@apache.org>wrote: > >> Hi *, >> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 04:45:54PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>> Hi all-- >>>> >>>> With Rob's request to add a page about the current NL mailing lists, I >> took >>>> a look at: >>>> >>>> http://www.openoffice.org/native-lang/ >>>> >>>> for additional information. Of course, it's not up to date. >>>> >>> >>> I love the opening line: "This document looks complicated but it is not" >>> >>>> It would be REALLY great if someone could edit this page/area >> appropriately >>>> given OpenOffice's ASF context. Thanks. >>>> >>> >>> The NLC was described as "composed of those projects working on all >>> aspects related to the localization and support of OpenOffice.org, >>> including localization, QA, support, documentation, and marketing" >>> >>> From what I understand, this was hierarchical/bureaucratic NLC, with >>> defined roles, levels, process, elected leaders,etc. Do we want to >>> recreate some part of that formality at Apache? It is not my personal >>> preference, but we did that with the community forum volunteers and no >>> one seems to have died. >> > > Rob -- I have no opinion about this one way or another. As far as I'm > concerned, whatever works. We must take care to not assume or designate NL > "area leaders" as official representatives though, I think. > > >> >> IMO the Forum was a different case, it was already a working structure. >> The NLC is in a rather different situation, most people listed in >> http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html is not working here, >> the NLC as a structure can be considered dead, so it is a good chance to >> start anew and not repeat old mistakes. >> > > OK, Ariel, thanks for the information -- that was my assumption also. > Perhaps as a first start we should remove the "project contacts" as was > done with the other former projects. > > >> + 1 to follow the Apache Way here >> - 1 to bringing back the old hierarchical structure here at this new >> Apache home >> > > OK...thanks for the input. > > >> >> Concerning that web page http://www.openoffice.org/native-lang/ is now >> completely obsolete, it can be removed. >> > > Well I think such a landing page provides some value -- for at least > explaining what this area would hope to accomplish, what the objectives, > are, and what Apache OpenOffice is able to provide in the way of support. > > Currently, this page is indeed WRONG, but I would like to see what Kevin > SIsco can come up with. I know there was recently quite a long thread about > the N-L projects. We need to review what was discussed there. > > ... and regards to you!
I am a big -1 on removing the page - http://www.openoffice.org/native-lang/ I spent a HUGE amount of effort making sure that all of the NL sites remained available should anyone return. It would be a horrible shame to remove this page which is the ONLY map we have on the ooo-site to all of the NL sites. There is an out of date MediaWiki page with the same information. I agree we should lose the names. It has been discussed. Any committer can do it. I agree with Kay, let's see what Kevin Sisco offers. Regards, Dave > > >> >> Regards >> -- >> Ariel Constenla-Haile >> La Plata, Argentina >> > > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "Follow your bliss." > -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
