On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 12:27 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 11:31 AM, drew <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 14:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > > <snip> > > >> > <orcmid> > >> > This might need to be separated for what the agreement is when people > >> > register/subscribe and provide information solicited to accomplish > >> > that. > >> > This seems like too broad an umbrella for what happens when folks > >> > register versus what happens when accessing sites versus what happens > >> > when sending an e-mail somewhere. > >> > </orcmid> > >> > > >> > >> It would be good to link to the ToU from any registration. But note > >> that we don't always have that access where it is a shared Apache > >> service, for example CWiki. > >> > >> Nothing in the ToU speaks about emails, so that is red herring. > > > > A red herring? I don't think so - why should it only be valid if already > > there. The site references our mailing lists and certainly did, likely > > still does, IMO a comment on the public nature of mailing lists is > > really appropriate here. > > > > The point is this: a user can contribute to the mailing list without > ever having visited the website. So posting ToU for the mailing list > on a website is not going to really have any legal or even advisory > effect. One thing that we could do is put ToU in the confirmation > note we send to new list subscribers. Or even a link to a > consolidated ToU on the website if that is how we do it. > > In any case, most of the ToU is in the nature of a notice: we are > telling the user what will are doing, what we can do, and what we will > do under certainly conditions. The main exception, where we are > demanding something of the user, is if where we require a licence on > their contributions. So that is the one thing where we cannot be > casual. If we want to have an incoming licence on contributions that > really needs to be baked into registration systems, list > acknowledgement emails, etc.
Well, I agree that this is a notice - I still feel it would appropriate to mention mailing list. What I've done just now is simply to move your text verbatim to the wiki - I'll add a paragraph for what I think is an apt way to address this. Give a read to that, and if you or anyone else thinks it's just our of place, well, that's why it's a white board, right ;-) //drew > > -Rob >
