On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 12:09 AM, drew <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 20:11 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> @Rob, >> >> Yes, I am seeing what you are seeing. >> >> Concerning the ToU for the forums, it is the same as what was previously on >> the web site. While there is a license grant for non-code and other places >> where no other license is applied, the license is also to "all Users". >> >> @Rob, @Drew, @Kay >> >> I created an issue that proposed a new terms of use that was consistent with >> the Oracle ones for ASF and would have not made this problem worse, as far >> as I can tell. That was long ago and it went nowhere. The JIRA issue is >> here: <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-104>. Here's the >> connected issue on our Bugzilla: >> <https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118518>. I came to our >> Bugzilla because LEGAL-104 can't have attachments. The attachment on the >> Bugzilla provides a red-lined transformation of the Oracle ToU into one that >> could work for the forums, wikis, and web pages now under ASF custodianship. >> >> It addresses some of the cases that Rob also mentions. I stand by my >> analysis. You might want to see how to carve out what you want from that, >> since it is at least a start and the places where further customization may >> be called for are all identified. >> >> - Dennis > > Hi Dennis, > > You did a good job on it then too. > > I just took the time to go back and read over the exchange on the legal > JIRA entry and a quick read, again, of your markup to the original TOU > text. > > For a TOU link in the website, wiki and forum footer I think it is a > good think to just finish this up and use it. > > The website no longer offers account creation so with the new TOU and > the current http://www.openoffice.org/privacy.html , I suppose it would > be done (for today :) > > where one does still have a difference between registered and > non-registered users: > > - the media wiki already has > http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Wiki:Copyrights > so I suppose that would be done (for today) also. > > - the forums, just add a requirement that everything new is ALv2 in > http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ucp.php?mode=terms (and > it's translations) > > At least it seems this simple to me, does it really need to be thought > out a lot further then that? >
If someone has a specific proposal, can they stick it on the Cwiki as a draft and we can work on it a bit? "As simple as possible, but no simpler". -Rob > //drew > >> >> Some months ago it was discussed with the ASF Board whether a privacy >> condition and safe-harbor setup was desired. That apparently didn't get >> anywhere. >> >> >> > >