On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:27 PM, drew jensen wrote: > >> On Wed, 2012-08-15 at 14:45 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a reason that the README in the source release is still pointing >>>> at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSXBuildInstructions for Mac Builds? >>>> >>>> Minimally this then points to http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AquaBuild >>>> this doesn't seem exactly like what was used for 3.4.0? >>>> >>>> Would someone check the Build instructions and then update to be very >>>> clear what is current. >>>> >>>> I am proceeding with my tests as if the prerequisites have not changed and >>>> that I have them from my AOO 3.4 tests build. >>> >>> I am stuck and I am stopping. I am very unhappy with the instructions on >>> the WIki page. I needed help with 3.4 and now I need help with 3.4.1. >>> >>> Please show me the simplest way to build on a Mac from Source and show me >>> on the Wiki based on http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSXBuildInstructions >>> >>> BTW - Remember that SOURCE is the ONLY OFFICIAL RELEASE. >> >> - but I thought that as part of accepting this project ASF was saying >> they were open to change.. am I just wrong on that - cause folks keep >> saying this as if it is a FACT and I thought it was going to be up to >> this project to decide whether binaries are official, or not. >> >> That is what I thought when I cast my non-binding vote to create this >> project at ASF - specifically that it was recognized as needing this >> type of differentiation from earlier projects. > > Binary artifacts are fine, they are just considered to be "unofficial > convenience artifacts".
Also this is actually a good distinction and an evolution as it gives possible sanction to stuff like: (LEGAL-144) Request for permission for CloudStack to distribute secondary convenience builds containing libvirt-java (LGPL) > > The ASF's mission is software for the public good. That means that users must > be able to see the source and be able to build it for themselves. They must > be able to inspect the source to see that it is unhindered. > > So, the IP must be clear and transparently so. This is what an IPMC and ASF > Member must measure their vote on. > > Sorry, I'm a bit cranky right now. My cpan disappeared while trying to assure > that I had the now required LWP::UserAgent. No one tested the new > download_external_dependencies.pl properly. > > My real message is that the project needs to clean up the build instructions > so that special knowledge and/or help is not a prerequisite. > > Regards, > Dave > > >> >> //drew >> >>> >>> (I really don't want to -1 this release.) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>> >>>>> From: Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> >>>>> Date: August 15, 2012 7:01:47 AM PDT >>>>> To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" <ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating), RC2 >>>>> Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>>> delivered-to: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> please vote on this email to ooo-dev only, thanks. >>>>> >>>>> On 8/15/12 2:02 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache >>>>>> OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating). This will be our first bug fix release >>>>>> after the AOO 3.4 from May 8th. A further milestone to show that we >>>>>> deliver good and stable software with focus on quality. It will again >>>>>> help to continue the success of OpenOffice.org and will gain confidence >>>>>> in OpenOffice. >>>>>> >>>>>> This time I did not prepare a separate page to highlighting the release >>>>>> candidate. We had developer snapshot since several weeks and the latest >>>>>> one based on revision 1372282 is intended to become released if the >>>>>> voting succeeds. That means and to make it clear you vote here on the >>>>>> final release based on this snapshot build. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This release is intended to be a bug fix release and to introduce some >>>>>> further languages: >>>>>> (1) 71 issues are fixed and a detailed list can be watched under >>>>>> http://s.apache.org/Huv. >>>>>> (2) 5 further languages are now officially supported: British English, >>>>>> Khmer, Slovenian, Slovak, and Finnish. >>>>>> >>>>>> For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under >>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Release+Notes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary >>>>>> releases for 20 languages) and further information how to verify and >>>>>> review Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) can be found on the >>>>>> following wiki page: >>>>>> >>>>>> hhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOO3.4.1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 >>>>>> (incubating). >>>>>> >>>>>> The vote starts now and will be open until: >>>>>> >>>>>> Saturday, 18 August: 2012-08-18 2:00pm UTC+2. >>>>>> >>>>>> After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on >>>>>> gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 >>>>>> hours. >>>>>> But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like >>>>>> to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project >>>>>> members. >>>>>> >>>>>> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) >>>>>> [ ] 0 Don't care >>>>>> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
