On 16.08.2012 00:46, Dave Fisher wrote:

On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:27 PM, drew jensen wrote:

On Wed, 2012-08-15 at 14:45 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:

Is there a reason that the README in the source release is still pointing at 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSXBuildInstructions for Mac Builds?

Minimally this then points to http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AquaBuild this 
doesn't seem exactly like what was used for 3.4.0?

Would someone check the Build instructions and then update to be very clear 
what is current.

I am proceeding with my tests as if the prerequisites have not changed and that 
I have them from my AOO 3.4 tests build.

I am stuck and I am stopping. I am very unhappy with the instructions on the 
WIki page. I needed help with 3.4 and now I need help with 3.4.1.

Please show me the simplest way to build on a Mac from Source and show me on 
the Wiki based on http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSXBuildInstructions

BTW - Remember that SOURCE is the ONLY OFFICIAL RELEASE.

- but I thought that as part of accepting this project ASF was saying
they were open to change.. am I just wrong on that - cause folks keep
saying this as if it is a FACT and I thought it was going to be up to
this project to decide whether binaries are official, or not.

That is what I thought when I cast my non-binding vote to create this
project at ASF - specifically that it was recognized as needing this
type of differentiation from earlier projects.

Binary artifacts are fine, they are just considered to be "unofficial convenience 
artifacts".

The ASF's mission is software for the public good. That means that users must 
be able to see the source and be able to build it for themselves. They must be 
able to inspect the source to see that it is unhindered.

So, the IP must be clear and transparently so. This is what an IPMC and ASF 
Member must measure their vote on.

Sorry, I'm a bit cranky right now. My cpan disappeared while trying to assure 
that I had the now required LWP::UserAgent. No one tested the new 
download_external_dependencies.pl properly.

1. LWP::UserAgent has been a prerequisite for years. But I think I remember that it was temporarily removed from one of the older platform specific build instruction pages.

2. Can you be more specific regarding your problems with download_external_dependencies.pl so that I can fix it? It exists under this name for more than two months and since it is used in every setup of a build I would say that it is fairly well tested. But that does not mean that it is error free.

3. Please have a look at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO. Maybe that page is more helpful. If not, please help me to improve it.

-Andre


My real message is that the project needs to clean up the build instructions so 
that special knowledge and/or help is not a prerequisite.

Regards,
Dave



//drew


(I really don't want to -1 this release.)

Regards,
Dave


Thanks & Regards,
Dave


Begin forwarded message:

From: Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>
Date: August 15, 2012 7:01:47 AM PDT
To: "ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org" <ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating), RC2
Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
delivered-to: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org

Hi,

please vote on this email to ooo-dev only, thanks.

On 8/15/12 2:02 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
Hi all,

this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache
OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating). This will be our first bug fix release
after the AOO 3.4 from May 8th. A further milestone to show that we
deliver good and stable software with focus on quality. It will again
help to continue the success of OpenOffice.org and will gain confidence
in OpenOffice.

This time I did not prepare a separate page to highlighting the release
candidate. We had developer snapshot since several weeks and the latest
one based on revision 1372282 is intended to become released if the
voting succeeds. That means and to make it clear you vote here on the
final release based on this snapshot build.


This release is intended to be a bug fix release and to introduce some
further languages:
(1) 71 issues are fixed and a detailed list can be watched under
http://s.apache.org/Huv.
(2) 5 further languages are now officially supported: British English,
Khmer, Slovenian, Slovak, and Finnish.

For a detailed feature overview please see the release notes under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Release+Notes.


The release candidate artifacts (source release, as well as binary
releases for 20 languages) and further information how to verify and
review Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) can be found on the
following wiki page:

hhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOO3.4.1


Please vote on releasing this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1
(incubating).

The vote starts now and will be open until:

Saturday, 18 August: 2012-08-18 2:00pm UTC+2.

After the vote of the PPMC the vote will start on
gene...@incubtor.apache.org mailing and will be open for further 72 hours.
But we invite all people to vote (non binding) on this RC. We would like
to provide a release that is supported by the majority of our project
members.

[ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating)
[ ]  0 Don't care
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...








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