On 9/7/12 10:28 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: > There is some difference between the way ASF sees "community" compared > to the former structures of the OOo community. ASF sees much of what > the old OOo called the community as the "ecosystem".
It is definitely an important aspect and I think everybody is invited to take responsibility to reach out to the broader eco-systems and help to increase it As a specific > proposal I think we need at least one ppmc/pmc member with the role of > linking to wider community or ecosystem projects and I'd nominate > Louis for that role because he has the most experience. I'm willing to > assist if he accepts that role and thinks I could be useful. It could > be that additional roles develop in marketing, distribution etc within > the pmc but that does not have to be decided at this stage. Such roles > could be developed outside ASF but with a formal link to the pmc to > support communications. I would not bind it to a specific person or to a role. Anybody can do anything here and anybody is encouraged to simply start doing things. It is natural that people will focus on the areas where they think they can do most and where they are best. That's perfect and will definitely help us. But I think it is important that newcomers don't get the impression that the so called "roles" are already settled by some other persons and that there is no place or demand for further resources or help. Everybody is welcome and encouraged to start working on things that are important for them and of course for the project. If there is overlap with the work of others I expect that these community members take action and start collaboration on these thinks. And what seems to be more important is that the "older" members help newcomers to find their way and invite them to join for example temporary or longer existing working groups for specific work items. Building work groups to work on specific tasks is totally ok but these work groups are always open for others to join and to extend the power and effectiveness of such a group. If somebody joins and draw big pictures, spread visions but never let follow concrete actions it is likely that she/he will stay alone and will probably disappear silently over time. New ideas and visions are always welcome and the minimal action is to put enough energy in it to convince others to share the vision, idea and start collaborative work to drive it forward. This is at least my personal opinion and I am trying to follow these principles. But nobody is perfect ;-) Juergen