On Mon, 1 Oct 2012 12:53:10 -0400 Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> As we perform the final preparations to release Apache OpenOffice > >>>> 3.4.1 it is a good time to look ahead to the future. A big > >>>> opportunity is OpenOffice 4.0. That once seemed so very far away, but > >>>> 2013 is getting closer every day. Will it be a large collection of > >>>> small ideas? Will it have a major overarching theme? Or will it just > >>>> be whatever random stuff we happen to have on a given date when we > >>>> release 4.0? The answer, of course, depends on what we, as project > >>>> members/volunteers decide to do. It is a good time now, as a > >>>> background activity, to poll the community and wider ecosystem on > >>>> ideas for Apache OpenOffice 4.0. > >>>> > >>>> To participate, go to this page on Google Moderator, where you can > >>>> help us gather and rate ideas: > >>>> https://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=2011d5 > >>>> > >>>> A few project members have already "seeded" this with some initial > >>>> ideas. Of course, you are encouraged to add your own ideas, as well as > >>>> rate the ideas of others. Try not to censor yourself from thinking > >>>> outside-of-the-box. We need big ideas as well as incremental ones. > >>>> > >>>> We don't have a close date on this brainstorming activity, but it is > >>>> good to get your ideas in early, so there is an opportunity for others > >>>> to rate and comment on it. > >>>> > >>> > >>> This brainstorming has been ongoing for 3 weeks now. So far, so good. > >>> The latest stats are: > >>> > >>> 533 people have submitted 456 ideas and cast 6,491 votes > >>> > >> > >> Today, a week later: 633 users - 527 ideas - 7,607 votes > >> > > > > > > And two days later, with no additional promotion other than placing a > > link on the home page, and we're at: > > > > ===> 807 people have submitted 652 ideas and cast 9,358 votes > > > > So we're still getting a good amount of visits and even new ideas. I > > encourage everyone to review the new ideas as they come in. Ideas are > > important, of course, but the collective rating of ideas is the key. > > > > As planned, I'll start to wrap this up on October 1st, next Tuesday. > > > > Final count was: > > 1,095 people have submitted 885 ideas and cast 13,019 votes > > So still coming in strong, though I detect a good amount of repetition > at this point. > > I've exported a CSV snapshot of the results and checked it into SVN here: > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/pmc/brainstorming/google-moderator.csv > > It imports into OpenOffice well, if you configure to use commas as the > delimiter in the import dialog. It has all of the ideas submitted, in > all of the categories, as well as per-idea positive and negative vote > totals. > > I don't see any way to pause the Google Moderator instance or tell it > to stop allowing new submissions. I put a comment on the homepage of > our "series" saying we were done and thanking those who had taken the > time to submit or rate ideas: > > http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=2011d5 > > We do have the option of deleting the series altogether. Otherwise > we're going to continue getting new ideas. But is that a bad thing? > It is if no one from the project is monitoring it. But "continuous > brainstorming" might have some value if we stay engaged with it. On > the other hand, if it becomes a routine thing then it will confuse > some users between when they use Bugzilla (which also has a voting > mechanism) versus Google Moderator. IMHO we should delete our > Moderator page, but set up a new one in the future if we want to do a > period of concentrated brain storming. Maybe a more focused topic > next time. > > So unless anyone really wants to see us keep that instance up, I'll > delete it next Monday. (And remember we have a snapshot of all the > data in a CSV file in Subversion). I agree. Take the snapshot and close the Moderator page; if the submissions prove useful, we can start it again for a later revision of AOO when some of the current suggestions are in place. > > Regards, > > -Rob > > > -Rob > > > >> So we are still getting a good amount of feedback. I added a mention > >> of this brainstorming on the www.openoffice.org website header. That > >> should give this even more visibility. > >> > >> I've heard from some that it would be good to get to a point where we > >> can take a "snapshot" of the feedback received, and process that, to > >> help set priorities for AOO 4.0. > >> > >> Would it make sense to do that in another week, say on October 1st? > >> > >> At that point we can: > >> > >> 1) Put a "thank you" note on the Google Moderator page and stop > >> accepting new suggestions. Point the users to the ooo-users or > >> ooo-dev mailing list instead, > >> > >> 2) Export the ideas and scores received so far to a CSV file and > >> archive that someplace. > >> > >> 3) Discuss the results received > >> > >> 4) Maybe a blog post to highlight the brainstorming activity and the > >> results received? > >> > >> Any other ideas? > >> > >> I don't need to own any of this, but since I started it I'm willing to > >> finish it. But if anyone else wants to take a lead on this, please > >> volunteer. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> -Rob > >> > >>> If you have not reviewed the new ideas recently, it would be worth > >>> taking another look. It is good that all ideas are rated, not just > >>> the ones that came in early. > >>> > >>> Maybe let it run to the end of September and then we can snapshot it > >>> and start analyzing the results? Or mid October? It would be good to > >>> wrap this up in advance of ApacheCon, so we can discuss further there. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> -Rob > >>> > >>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> > >>>> -Rob > -- Rory O'Farrell <[email protected]>
