I think it is important to remember, that a volunteer is not signing up for
anything.

A volunteer, in my view, is a person who wants to help with his/hers
skillset...so if we start saying you have to pass level x before continuing
we have already lost (At least I can relate that to myself)

I have been in this business since 1975, and I have never made it through
any of all these "master classes" and other exams. I am just one of the
guys who get things done, like in the early days before tcp/ip.

What I am trying to say is, let´s help people work with us....that´s what
it´s all about, if we can help people to easier help us, then we have a
win-win situation.

And in respect of introducing myself, which I forgot please read this
resume:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/User:JanIversen

jan.

Jan.



On 19 October 2012 23:08, Rob Weir <rabas...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Oct 19, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 10/19/2012 01:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> I am thinking about what new project volunteers need to get started.
> >>> Obviously there are area-specific things.  For example, developers
> >>> need to know how to download and build.  Translation volunteers need
> >>> to understand Pootle, etc.  But there are also some basic things that
> >>> all volunteers should probably do.
> >>>
> >>> Although we have all of this information (or at least most of it) on
> >>> the website or wikis or mailing list archives, it is scattered all
> >>> over the place.  I think it would be good if we could collect this
> >>> information (or at least links to this information) into one place and
> >>> put a linear order behind it, a step of specific steps we want new
> >>> volunteers to take.
> >>>
> >>> Now, I can hear the objections already -- you can't tell volunteers
> >>> what to do.  That is why they are volunteers.  You can't regiment
> >>> them, etc.  This is true.  But at the scale we need to operate at --
> >>> I'm aiming to attract dozens of new volunteers on the project by the
> >>> end of the year -- we need some structure.  So what can we do to make
> >>> their first 2 weeks in the project easier for them, and easier for us?
> >>>
> >>> One idea:  Think of the new volunteer startup tasks in terms of
> >>> "stages" or "levels", a defined set of reading and other activities
> >>> that leads them to acquire basic skills in our community.
> >>>
> >>> For example:
> >>
> >> To make it more concrete, this is what "Level 1" might look like:
> >>
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/level-1.html
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >
> > This is very good! I esp like the last part about providing a way for
> volunteers to "sign up" if you will. This will be a nice touch.
> >
> > I'm also wondering if there's some way to tie this in to our current
> "Help Wanted" page:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Help+Wanted
>
> Yes, It is worth looking at the new volunteer view of things, from end to
> end.
>
> My current thinking is this: as we scale the number of volunteers
> we'll soon want a better way to track items like these. Maybe putting
> them into BZ would work?  Introduce a new field to record "difficulty"
> in BZ and filters to list unassigned easy issues?
>
> >
> > Maybe someone has some ideas?
> >
> >>
> >>> Level 1 tasks:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Read the following web pages on the ASF, roles at Apache and the
> Apache Way
> >>>
> >>> 2) Sign up for the following accounts that every volunteer should
> >>> have:  ooo-announce, ooo-dev, ooo-users,  MWiki, CWiki, BZ, Forums
> >>>
> >>> 3) Read this helpful document on hints for managing your inbox with
> >>> rules and folders
> >>>
> >>> 4) Read this code of conduct page on list etiquette
> >>>
> >>> 5) Send a note to ooo-dev list and introduce yourself
> >>>
> >>> 6) Edit this wiki page  containing project volunteers. Add your name
> >>> and indicate that you have completed Level 1.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Level 2 tasks:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Using the Apache CMS in anonymous mode
> >>>
> >>> 2) Readings on decision making at Apache
> >>>
> >>> 3) Readings on project life cycle and roles within the AOO project
> >>>
> >>> 4) Introduction to the various functional groups within the project:
> >>> development, qa, marketing, UX, documentation, support, localization,
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>> 5) Pick one or more functional groups that you want to help with.
> >>> Edit the volunteer wiki and list them.  Also indicate that you have
> >>> now completed Level 2.
> >>>
> >>> Get the idea?  After Level 2 this then could branch off into
> >>> area-specific lists of start up tasks:  how to download and build.
> >>> How to submit patches.  How to update a translation.  How to define a
> >>> new test case.
> >>>
> >>> Is any one interested in helping with this?
> >>>
> >>> -Rob
> >
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Anyone who considers protocol unimportant has never
> > dealt with a cat."
> >                               -- Robert Heinlein
>

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