Hello Abhijit,

Please let us (DIDM) know for the required config changes, I will add it in
didm user documentation.

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Thanks and Regards,
Subhash Kumar Singh

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <abhijitk...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello DIDM & NIC,
>
> We are finding the performance of the oper-datastore inventory slow if
> table features is turned on by default as mentioned by Shuva below. This
> would affect all the users regardless of whether they use the table
> features or not. DIDM & NIC are the only ones using the table features.
> Hence from our OpenFlow Plugin meeting today we decided we will keep the
> default configuration to be table features off and have DIDM/NIC enable it
> when they need it. We are still deciding whether we start it off as a
> config change (most likely) and/or transition it to be a run-time change
> (less likely in the Boron release). Jozef, Shuva, etc. will follow up later
> with the instructions - but we would need you to either implement the
> change to turn it on (if it is a run time option) - or have instructions in
> your user level documentation to turn it on (config time option).
>
> Thanks,
> Abhijit
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Shuva Jyoti Kar <
> shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
>> First take – with even one switch connected the restconf hangs when we
>> try querying the oper-DS via apidoc.
>>
>> Over Postman its extremely slow.  And avoid oper-Ds writes for
>> applications that might not require this.
>>
>>
>>
>> It would be really nice to measure the performance for scaled out
>> scenarios – switch scaleout + large config( a mil flows scenario )
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> shua
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Jozef Bacigál [mailto:jozef.baci...@pantheon.tech]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:32 PM
>> *To:* Abhijit Kumbhare; Anil Vishnoi; openflowplugin-dev@lists.opend
>> aylight.org
>> *Cc:* Tom Pantelis; Muthukumaran K; Shuva Jyoti Kar; Luis Gomez;
>> didm-...@lists.opendaylight.org; nic-...@lists.opendaylight.org
>> *Subject:* RE: Patch for tuning table features
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry I wasn’t here for two days, but first thing the patch seems good.
>> Second thing I see no problem when the table features stay switched ON.
>> Before the changes the table features were inside the tables and with each
>> table we always loaded full features. Now are the features on the same
>> level as table so performance in boron get better. It would be nice to have
>> some performance test with ON/OFF table features with this patch set.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jozef
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Abhijit Kumbhare [mailto:abhijitk...@gmail.com
>> <abhijitk...@gmail.com>]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2016 7:37 AM
>> *To:* Anil Vishnoi <vishnoia...@gmail.com>;
>> openflowplugin-dev@lists.opendaylight.org
>> *Cc:* Tom Pantelis <tompante...@gmail.com>; Muthukumaran K <
>> muthukumara...@ericsson.com>; Shuva Jyoti Kar <
>> shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com>; Jozef Bacigál <jozef.baci...@pantheon.tech>;
>> Luis Gomez <ece...@gmail.com>; didm-...@lists.opendaylight.org;
>> nic-...@lists.opendaylight.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Patch for tuning table features
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes - we should reach out to DIDM & the NIC project - but I want to also
>> discuss this in this week's meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have added the OpenFlow Plugin mailing list - as well as DIDM & NIC -
>> so they can be aware of this discussion. If I remember right we had also
>> discussed this earlier - don't remember what we had concluded then.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Anil Vishnoi <vishnoia...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Tom Pantelis <tompante...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> So you have some apps that need table-features enabled but other apps
>> that need it off? That sounds like a deployment headache - what if an end
>> user has installed an app that needs it on and also an app that needs it
>> off? What happens to an app if the setting isn't what it needs?
>>
>> ​It's moreover like, some apps need it, but apps who don't need it, would
>> *prefer* to disable it for performance reason. So if it comes to the
>> situation where one app need table features, then other app will have to
>> live with it.
>>
>> But yes, it's still an deployment options, and we were thinking an easy
>> way for doing that.​
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regardless, this seems like a deployment option for the end user or
>> integrator, ie let the user decide what to set it to rather than apps
>> trying to set it automatically on install and possibly stomping over one
>> another. So if a user installs DIDM, document that they must enable
>> table-features.
>>
>> ​This is also reasonable option, but not sure if didm and nic projects
>> are okay with it or not. This might add some work on their plate to fix
>> their intergration/csit jobs etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Abhijit, do you think it make sense to reach out to DIDM/NIC project?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Muthukumaran K <
>> muthukumara...@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>
>> So, assuming that a set of projects require default-value for a config
>> param (table-features in this case) to be true, they would have use what
>> comes out of box (assuming that XML what we ship via features.xml sets the
>> value to true).
>>
>> Then another set of projects want to flip – they stop the whole karaf
>> container, edit this XML and restart. Or they can edit the XML file on fly ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Clarity of this sequence may be useful for how test automation runs CSIT
>> – a set of Test suites which require the value to be true (in this example,
>> DIDM, NIC) and another set of test suites which require this value to be
>> false (everything else other than NIC or DIDM)
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Muthu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tom Pantelis [mailto:tompante...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:46 AM
>> *To:* Anil Vishnoi
>> *Cc:* Abhijit Kumbhare; Shuva Jyoti Kar; jozef.baci...@pantheon.tech;
>> Muthukumaran K
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Patch for tuning table features
>>
>>
>>
>> If using clustered-app-config, the default value can be set via an
>> external XML file that could be shipped via a features.xml. See
>> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Using_Blueprint#Using_the_Datastore
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Anil Vishnoi <vishnoia...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think two project had dependent (DIDM and NIC) on the table
>> features. So if plugin will disable it now, both the project will
>> break. So if we want to disable table features, we need to provide
>> some solution on how these project can enable it.
>>
>> Given that all the config nobs are present in data store, didm/nic
>> project can overwrite the default value to false, but that will
>> restart the openflowplugin model, which i think should be fine.
>>
>> Tom, do you have any other thoughts on how projects can set value of
>> config nob exposed by dependent projects?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <abhijitk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Added Jozef. Since it is Jozef's patch and you are now a committer -
>> you can
>> > review/merge it :)
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Shuva Jyoti Kar
>> > <shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sure, sounds good. Can you please review the patch and merge it then ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Shuva
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Abhijit Kumbhare [mailto:abhijitk...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:25 PM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> To: Shuva Jyoti Kar
>> >> Cc: Muthukumaran K; Anil Vishnoi
>> >> Subject: Re: Patch for tuning table features
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We should ask DIDM to turn it on if and when they need it.
>> >>
>> >> On Monday, August 1, 2016, Shuva Jyoti Kar <
>> shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I do see your point Abhjit. The spec says “If it wishes to understand
>> the
>> >> size, types, and order in which tables are consulted, the controller
>> >>
>> >> sends a OFPMP_TABLE_FEATURES multipart request (see A.3.5.5)”. Hence it
>> >> would be optional. Am I correct ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> But if we turn it off by , will any projects have a problem ? I
>> remember
>> >> DIDM having a dependency.
>> >>
>> >> The current status that exists for the He and Li designs are:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Master
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> He-design: turned on by default, can be turned off
>> >>
>> >> Li-design :mandatory now[my patch will make it configurable]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Stable/Be
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> He-design: turned on by default, can be turned off
>> >>
>> >> Li-design: turned off by default  as per
>> >> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/36506/4
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I do see a point it making it off by default. Do let me know if I am
>> >> missing something
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Shuva
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Abhijit Kumbhare [mailto:abhijitk...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:20 AM
>> >> To: Shuva Jyoti Kar
>> >> Cc: Muthukumaran K; Anil Vishnoi
>> >> Subject: Re: Patch for tuning table features
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The spec does not say that the table features HAS to be used. I think
>> we
>> >> should turn it off on both the He and the Li designs to keep consistent
>> >> assuming it is causing enough performance problems.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Shuva Jyoti Kar
>> >> <shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely Muthu ,nothing else. Aligining with the spec its been
>> turned on
>> >> but can be turned off in a manner that aligns with the implementation
>> on the
>> >> He plugin as well.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Muthukumaran K
>> >> <muthukumara...@ericsson.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It was kept on just to be in alignment with spec and also with He
>> plugin’s
>> >> config
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Anything else Shuva ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Muthu
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Abhijit Kumbhare [mailto:abhijitk...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:52 AM
>> >> To: Shuva Jyoti Kar
>> >> Cc: Anil Vishnoi; Muthukumaran K
>> >> Subject: Re: Patch for tuning table features
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Then shouldn't it be off by default if OVS 2.4 is sending a lot of data
>> >> and performance suffers?
>> >>
>> >> On Saturday, July 30, 2016, Shuva Jyoti Kar <
>> shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Anil, Abhijit,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have pushed a patch for turning table-features ON/OFF with the
>> >> li-plugin. By default it is on, but can be switched off.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/42821/1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> We need this fix since by default ovs2.4 sends quite a huge amount of
>> data
>> >> for each switch connected.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Could you please review the change and let me know your comments.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Shuva
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Anil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>>
>> Anil
>>
>>
>>
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