Hi Abhijit, thank you for your attention. The same for us (NIC), we'll add
it on our wiki page.

With regards,

On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Subhash Singh <
subhash_si...@criterionnetworks.com> wrote:

> Hello Abhijit,
>
> Please let us (DIDM) know for the required config changes, I will add it
> in didm user documentation.
>
> --
> Thanks and Regards,
> Subhash Kumar Singh
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:47 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <abhijitk...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello DIDM & NIC,
>>
>> We are finding the performance of the oper-datastore inventory slow if
>> table features is turned on by default as mentioned by Shuva below. This
>> would affect all the users regardless of whether they use the table
>> features or not. DIDM & NIC are the only ones using the table features.
>> Hence from our OpenFlow Plugin meeting today we decided we will keep the
>> default configuration to be table features off and have DIDM/NIC enable it
>> when they need it. We are still deciding whether we start it off as a
>> config change (most likely) and/or transition it to be a run-time change
>> (less likely in the Boron release). Jozef, Shuva, etc. will follow up later
>> with the instructions - but we would need you to either implement the
>> change to turn it on (if it is a run time option) - or have instructions in
>> your user level documentation to turn it on (config time option).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Abhijit
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Shuva Jyoti Kar <
>> shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>
>>> First take – with even one switch connected the restconf hangs when we
>>> try querying the oper-DS via apidoc.
>>>
>>> Over Postman its extremely slow.  And avoid oper-Ds writes for
>>> applications that might not require this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be really nice to measure the performance for scaled out
>>> scenarios – switch scaleout + large config( a mil flows scenario )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> shua
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Jozef Bacigál [mailto:jozef.baci...@pantheon.tech]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:32 PM
>>> *To:* Abhijit Kumbhare; Anil Vishnoi;
>>> openflowplugin-dev@lists.opendaylight.org
>>> *Cc:* Tom Pantelis; Muthukumaran K; Shuva Jyoti Kar; Luis Gomez;
>>> didm-...@lists.opendaylight.org; nic-...@lists.opendaylight.org
>>> *Subject:* RE: Patch for tuning table features
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry I wasn’t here for two days, but first thing the patch seems good.
>>> Second thing I see no problem when the table features stay switched ON.
>>> Before the changes the table features were inside the tables and with each
>>> table we always loaded full features. Now are the features on the same
>>> level as table so performance in boron get better. It would be nice to have
>>> some performance test with ON/OFF table features with this patch set.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jozef
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Abhijit Kumbhare [mailto:abhijitk...@gmail.com
>>> <abhijitk...@gmail.com>]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2016 7:37 AM
>>> *To:* Anil Vishnoi <vishnoia...@gmail.com>;
>>> openflowplugin-dev@lists.opendaylight.org
>>> *Cc:* Tom Pantelis <tompante...@gmail.com>; Muthukumaran K <
>>> muthukumara...@ericsson.com>; Shuva Jyoti Kar <
>>> shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com>; Jozef Bacigál <
>>> jozef.baci...@pantheon.tech>; Luis Gomez <ece...@gmail.com>;
>>> didm-...@lists.opendaylight.org; nic-...@lists.opendaylight.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: Patch for tuning table features
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes - we should reach out to DIDM & the NIC project - but I want to also
>>> discuss this in this week's meeting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have added the OpenFlow Plugin mailing list - as well as DIDM & NIC -
>>> so they can be aware of this discussion. If I remember right we had also
>>> discussed this earlier - don't remember what we had concluded then.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Anil Vishnoi <vishnoia...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:04 PM, Tom Pantelis <tompante...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So you have some apps that need table-features enabled but other apps
>>> that need it off? That sounds like a deployment headache - what if an end
>>> user has installed an app that needs it on and also an app that needs it
>>> off? What happens to an app if the setting isn't what it needs?
>>>
>>> ​It's moreover like, some apps need it, but apps who don't need it,
>>> would *prefer* to disable it for performance reason. So if it comes to the
>>> situation where one app need table features, then other app will have to
>>> live with it.
>>>
>>> But yes, it's still an deployment options, and we were thinking an easy
>>> way for doing that.​
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regardless, this seems like a deployment option for the end user or
>>> integrator, ie let the user decide what to set it to rather than apps
>>> trying to set it automatically on install and possibly stomping over one
>>> another. So if a user installs DIDM, document that they must enable
>>> table-features.
>>>
>>> ​This is also reasonable option, but not sure if didm and nic projects
>>> are okay with it or not. This might add some work on their plate to fix
>>> their intergration/csit jobs etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Abhijit, do you think it make sense to reach out to DIDM/NIC project?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Muthukumaran K <
>>> muthukumara...@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, assuming that a set of projects require default-value for a config
>>> param (table-features in this case) to be true, they would have use what
>>> comes out of box (assuming that XML what we ship via features.xml sets the
>>> value to true).
>>>
>>> Then another set of projects want to flip – they stop the whole karaf
>>> container, edit this XML and restart. Or they can edit the XML file on fly ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clarity of this sequence may be useful for how test automation runs CSIT
>>> – a set of Test suites which require the value to be true (in this example,
>>> DIDM, NIC) and another set of test suites which require this value to be
>>> false (everything else other than NIC or DIDM)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Muthu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Tom Pantelis [mailto:tompante...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:46 AM
>>> *To:* Anil Vishnoi
>>> *Cc:* Abhijit Kumbhare; Shuva Jyoti Kar; jozef.baci...@pantheon.tech;
>>> Muthukumaran K
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Patch for tuning table features
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If using clustered-app-config, the default value can be set via an
>>> external XML file that could be shipped via a features.xml. See
>>> https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Using_Blueprint#Using_the_Datastore
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Anil Vishnoi <vishnoia...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think two project had dependent (DIDM and NIC) on the table
>>> features. So if plugin will disable it now, both the project will
>>> break. So if we want to disable table features, we need to provide
>>> some solution on how these project can enable it.
>>>
>>> Given that all the config nobs are present in data store, didm/nic
>>> project can overwrite the default value to false, but that will
>>> restart the openflowplugin model, which i think should be fine.
>>>
>>> Tom, do you have any other thoughts on how projects can set value of
>>> config nob exposed by dependent projects?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Abhijit Kumbhare <abhijitk...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Added Jozef. Since it is Jozef's patch and you are now a committer -
>>> you can
>>> > review/merge it :)
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Shuva Jyoti Kar
>>> > <shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Sure, sounds good. Can you please review the patch and merge it then ?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >>
>>> >> Shuva
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: Abhijit Kumbhare [mailto:abhijitk...@gmail.com]
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:25 PM
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> To: Shuva Jyoti Kar
>>> >> Cc: Muthukumaran K; Anil Vishnoi
>>> >> Subject: Re: Patch for tuning table features
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> We should ask DIDM to turn it on if and when they need it.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Monday, August 1, 2016, Shuva Jyoti Kar <
>>> shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I do see your point Abhjit. The spec says “If it wishes to understand
>>> the
>>> >> size, types, and order in which tables are consulted, the controller
>>> >>
>>> >> sends a OFPMP_TABLE_FEATURES multipart request (see A.3.5.5)”. Hence
>>> it
>>> >> would be optional. Am I correct ?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> But if we turn it off by , will any projects have a problem ? I
>>> remember
>>> >> DIDM having a dependency.
>>> >>
>>> >> The current status that exists for the He and Li designs are:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Master
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> He-design: turned on by default, can be turned off
>>> >>
>>> >> Li-design :mandatory now[my patch will make it configurable]
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Stable/Be
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> He-design: turned on by default, can be turned off
>>> >>
>>> >> Li-design: turned off by default  as per
>>> >> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/36506/4
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I do see a point it making it off by default. Do let me know if I am
>>> >> missing something
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >>
>>> >> Shuva
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: Abhijit Kumbhare [mailto:abhijitk...@gmail.com]
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:20 AM
>>> >> To: Shuva Jyoti Kar
>>> >> Cc: Muthukumaran K; Anil Vishnoi
>>> >> Subject: Re: Patch for tuning table features
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> The spec does not say that the table features HAS to be used. I think
>>> we
>>> >> should turn it off on both the He and the Li designs to keep
>>> consistent
>>> >> assuming it is causing enough performance problems.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Shuva Jyoti Kar
>>> >> <shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Absolutely Muthu ,nothing else. Aligining with the spec its been
>>> turned on
>>> >> but can be turned off in a manner that aligns with the implementation
>>> on the
>>> >> He plugin as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 2:53 AM, Muthukumaran K
>>> >> <muthukumara...@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> It was kept on just to be in alignment with spec and also with He
>>> plugin’s
>>> >> config
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Anything else Shuva ?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards
>>> >>
>>> >> Muthu
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: Abhijit Kumbhare [mailto:abhijitk...@gmail.com]
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:52 AM
>>> >> To: Shuva Jyoti Kar
>>> >> Cc: Anil Vishnoi; Muthukumaran K
>>> >> Subject: Re: Patch for tuning table features
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Then shouldn't it be off by default if OVS 2.4 is sending a lot of
>>> data
>>> >> and performance suffers?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Saturday, July 30, 2016, Shuva Jyoti Kar <
>>> shuva.jyoti....@ericsson.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Anil, Abhijit,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I have pushed a patch for turning table-features ON/OFF with the
>>> >> li-plugin. By default it is on, but can be switched off.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> https://git.opendaylight.org/gerrit/#/c/42821/1
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> We need this fix since by default ovs2.4 sends quite a huge amount of
>>> data
>>> >> for each switch connected.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Could you please review the change and let me know your comments.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks
>>> >>
>>> >> Shuva
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> Anil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Anil
>>>
>>>
>>>
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