Is it doable to create new descriptions from just the codes.  Unless the
meaning of each code is common knowledge then you have to make recourse to
the original description, which makes your description a derived work at the
very least.

Is there any clean-room way of arriving at a description that could not be
construed to have been derived from the AMA's original description?

Presumably the patient has the right to see the actual codes that are used
on his medical record.  He also has knowledge (one would hope) of the
procedures performed.  But he has not seen the CPT list, and so can create a
workable description that is not tainted by any copyrightable link to the
original codes, nor by any other contractual relationship with the AMA.

80n



On 12/12/06, Karsten Hilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 10:54:32PM -0800, Rod Roark wrote:
>
> > Even absent the political ramifications, the resulting new system
> > will have useful applications. A billing service accepting the new
> > codes would still need CPT licensing,
> You guys need to keep straight what you are talking about.
> At least it gets me confused.
>
> One side suggests "writing new *descriptions*" for the
> *existing* CPT codes. In that case *there are no new
> codes* which would need any sort of acceptance by a billing
> service or even CPT licensing.
>
> The other party speaks about creating a whole different set
> of codes alltogether and trying to bring them into use for
> billing.
>
> Adrian Midgley proposes, as usual, the pragmatic solution:
>
> First, create new descriptions for the existing CPT codes
> and introduce those into use. This ought to be doable
> without interference by anyone. After all, the government
> cannot force me to use the AMA's descriptions. I can work
> with the codes alone (without *any* descriptions) if I so want
> - which is for all practical purposes exactly the same thing
> as working with alternate descriptions because the payor
> will never see those.
>
> Second, expand upon that established user base to introduce
> more codes for more purposes.
>
> I agree the first part seems doable. I am dubious about the
> second.
>
> Karsten
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