Hi Stuart,

ABOUT THE WEBSITE
=================
You have a point. Yesterday, Johan and I talked about
this, and we fully understand the hesitation you and
other OpenOCD members feel about a javascript-based
website (in the sense that javascript is responsible
for showing static content). Johan told me:

> "It is perfectly possible to create a fully static
> website without javascript, but with a similar menu
> to ours."

This of course throws a new question in the group: do
you (OpenOCD developers) like the style - the "look and
feel" - of our website (https://embeetle.com)?

Johan will join the OpenOCD mailing list after the
weekend to join the discussions. He looks forward to
help out with the webdesign. It's one of the many
things he's very good at :-)

ABOUT EMBEETLE IDE
==================
You said:
> "[..] bit hard to make a browser-based development
> environment without some sort of client-side code
> executing, whether it be JavaScript, Adobe Flash,
> Sun Java applets, etc."

Embeetle is not a browser-based IDE. It's a desktop
application intended for Linux and Windows. Is there
something about the homepage that made you think our
IDE is browser-based? If yes, that means we made a
mistake in our "communication strategy". Please tell
us, so we can make the appropriate changes ^_^

Kind regards,
Kristof Mulier





----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)" <[email protected]>
Aan: "openocd-devel" <[email protected]>
Verzonden: Zondag 25 oktober 2020 00:32:48
Onderwerp: Re: [OpenOCD-devel] Offer for website

On 24/10/20 11:40 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> I don't think this is an issue. All modern browsers can
> handle javascript.

Yes, most modern browsers can execute JavaScript.
Do you want your browser to execute ${WEBSITE}'s JavaScript?
Do you have the time to review the minified JavaScript code that website
calls up to see if it is safe?
Do you have the expertise to conduct such a review?

I'm fine with JavaScript on a site that actually requires it to
accomplish the task it is designed for.  These are called client-side
web applications.  They're not simple web pages.  Embeetle's own service
would be a good example here: bit hard to make a browser-based
development environment without some sort of client-side code executing,
whether it be JavaScript, Adobe Flash, Sun Java applets, etc.

Pages where the content is updated "live", sure, JavaScript all the way.

Rendering *static* menus and text on a page is not a job that JavaScript
is required for.  It's a biiiig attack surface for little benefit.
-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.

-- 
Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL)

I haven't lost my mind...
  ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.



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