Am Mittwoch 03 Februar 2010 19:24:16 schrieb Jim Rees:
> Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> 
>   what about the cyberflex tokens from axalto? I think they are still sold.
> 
> They were discontinued some time ago, but some vendors still have a few in
> stock.  Too bad, they and Cryptoflex were my favorite cards.
> 
> Aladdin USB tokens are ok I guess.  One problem with Aladdin is they make
> you buy a separate, useless software license before they'll sell you the
> token.  Don't buy their cards, which are not compatible with OpenSC.

hmm. is that new?
the resellers I know did sell etokens fine, even if I wanted to buy only
one or two and no software. 

also I need to say: aladdin sponsored a workshop with crypto tokens once
and gave me several tokens for free, so that part is good.

but - like all companies in that sector - they try to sell both, token
and client software, to make twice as much money. or a full "solution"
package with management software, pki, workshops, training, whatever.
I can't blame them for doing that. but the effect on the industry is
that nobody wants to create a compatible (or "exchangeable") product,
and that is sad. but this downside is not aladdin specific, everyone
(e.g. gemplus/gemalto) does the same.

and when siemens was so stupid to require an NDA for cardos documentation,
aladdin had a document with many APDU commands open on the net. and
I never needed to buy software, as at least the runtime package was
always on their ftp server without any need to buy something.
(but that was years ago, maybe it changed...)

Regards, Andreas
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