On Sep 4, 10:20 am, Susan <susan.war...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Arne.  This is very helpful.
>
> I'm not going max-reach on my first app, just trying to find a solid
> approach that will serve me in future apps as well.  It's helpful to
> learn that the some containers already support some 0.9 features.
> I've been testing in the Orkut/iGoogle sandboxes, but not everything
> 0.9 seems to work there yet.  (Although it's hard to tell if this is
> due to stuff I just don't understand yet, or whether some stuff is
> still NYI.  Any tips where should I look for updates?)

Official announcements will be made at http://igoogledeveloper.blogspot.com/
and http://orkutdeveloper.blogspot.com/ for all significant changes or
additions.  This group is also a good place to lurk.

>
> After lots more reading/testing I do think I'll bite the bullet and go
> down the proxied content, OSML + JS makeRequest route.  The scaling
> benefits are just too tasty to pass up.  Is the Quartermile app you
> demo'd at I/O available as a sample or open source?  It would rock to
> see a more beefy example, including backend implementation.

Like you followed up, the source is available, but in an incomplete
form.  I have an assignment to get the entire thing "productionized"
this quarter, so hopefully you'll see some updates to that project in
the next couple of weeks :)

>
> > In this case it's probably a case of the samples not being fully
> > baked.  Can you elaborate more on what problems you're seeing on IE?
> > AFAIK, there isn't anything keeping OSML from working on IE.
>
> I think this a JS bug in the sample, not a problem with OSML itself.
> Repro: run 0.9 OpenSocial Mashup sample (http://wiki.opensocial.org/
> index.php?title=Social_Mashup_Tutorial, full code linked at bottom) in
> the Orkut sandbox in IE, and click the "Give!" button.  This generates
> an Object Expected error on line 34.

Thanks, we'll take a look at it.

>
> This is a pretty trivial bug, but for me it underscores the value of
> encapsulating JS/HTML functionality in OSML/templates to leverage the
> x-browser JS implementation/HTML rendering smarts of someone who is
> hopefully better at it than I am. And yeah, I understand that this
> type of interactivity isn't handled by OSML/templates yet... but I can
> dream!  :-)

Yeah, although if you're writing any JS at all, there's always the
chance that some browser will choke on something.  For example, this
notation:

var data = {
  "key" : "value",
};

fails in IE while working in most other browsers (the comma after
"value" is at fault here).  To get around writing any JS at all, some
people have found some success at using GWT to write gadgets.
Theoretically, you could write an app entirely in Java using Servlets
and GWT (and utilizing Proxied Content and OSML) but I haven't seen
any samples put all of it together in a really easy-to-use framework
yet.

~Arne


>
> thanks,
> ~Susan
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